Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[2speedy1]

Posting this here to get everyone to see it hopefully.
OSU has been on a huge push. We need everyone that hasnt voted to vote today. We were way ahead, now its a virtual tie.

 

[HFCS]

Posting this here to get everyone to see it hopefully.
OSU has been on a huge push. We need everyone that hasnt voted to vote today. We were way ahead, now its a virtual tie.

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Engage fake twitter accounts!!!

 

[GoldCy]

You understand its the consumers who pay the majority of imposed taxes right? Econ 101.

I probably learned that long before you did. Since these schools are swimming in money, maybe admission and hot dog prices should be held in check. Do something for the fans for a change.

 

[Clonedogg]

I'd have to think NBC is done. The only slot they'd have going forward would have to start at 11AM Easter/10AM Central and I can't imagine the Big 12 wants to start that early.

CBS has 15 Big Ten games, plus 4 Mountain West games on the books. They could offer a prime time slot for 8ish games if they want to have football every Saturday night, which they haven't shown they've wanted in the past.

I think the Big 12 needs to give FOX/FS1/FS2 as much as they want and sell a smaller package to ESPN with a small streaming deal with Amazon or Apple.

The Pac 12 is absolutely boned.

NBC will be interesting, they could look for an 11am CT game to proceed their 2:30p time slot for ND. But they could also show Premier League contest as ND lead in.

CBS might have windows before & after their 2:30 Big10 game. But they have always seemed hesitant to go all in for Saturday night football.

Oddly, Fox which played a big part in engineering the Big10 deal might have the most capacity with 2:30 & 6:30 spots.

It wouldn't surprise me if ABC doesn't put ACC game at 11a and then SEC the afternoon and prime time spots. Complement those games with ESPN coverage of SEC & ACC games.

I think the reality is Big12/Pac12 might get a couple OTA games. But the best chance for ESPN like access might be on a WB, USA or TBS/TNT. Then the bulk on a streaming platform like Paramount+, Amazon or Apple+.

ND will only have 6-7 games in a 13 week season on NBC, I could see them wanting games to fill those other 6-7 weeks. Especially since they invested so much on the B1G primetime slot. More eyes that will not change the channel when the later game is on.

 

[CysRage]

Big10 is just swimming in money.

Yet fans are the ones expected to be footing the bill to pay athletes, not the schools raking in 80-100 mil per year. What a freaking joke.

 

[HFCS]

Saw some wild unconfirmed rumor on Utah fan youtube channel that San Diego State was offered Pac12 invite and gave them a "let us think it over" answer rather than joining.

I figured they were more of a "invite them to crush Pac addition" than a goal in itself. If 2-4 Pac schools join Big 12 do they still make any sense?

 

[drmwevr08]

Remember Aaron Craft and get to voting.

 

[BCClone]

The sickem365 people had someone on the other day that basically justified it like this:

Paraphrasing: "Your typical P5 university has 16 or more athletics programs. Only 2, of those make money and subsidize the other 14. In a for-profit business, typically you would cut those non-profitables entites out. However, the universities cannot for a variety of reasons, including title 9." - He said this is why they are likely to remain non-profits in the near future.

When you look at ways to become a non profit, one of them is providing scholarships. Why AAU teams always give out a scholarship or two. If they give out scholarships and not have them be employees, it will allow them to hold non profit. They just can't hold on to too much profit and cash.

 

[2speedy1]

Saw some wild unconfirmed rumor on Utah fan youtube channel that San Diego State was offered Pac12 invite and gave them a "let us think it over" answer rather than joining.

I figured they were more of a "invite them to crush Pac addition" than a goal in itself. If 2-4 Pac schools join Big 12 do they still make any sense?

There could be some truth to this, or not. Whether they were offered or really said it who knows, but I could see it going that way.

First, everyone in this situation has to take some time to look over everything and not just jump at first chance so I could see them saying that initially, no matter what the case. But I think if there was an invite and this was the answer there is a lot on the table.

As SDSU they have several things on the table:

• Will they get an invite from the Big 12/or at least in talks/hoping for one
• Will the Pac 12 hold together
• If they join the Pac 12 and it falls apart will that burn their bridges at the MWC.
• If the if they join the Pac and several schools leave, but invites a number of other schools to maintain as a conference, will they be in worse position than just staying put.
• etc

I think a school like SDSU is in a position where they have to wait this out a while to see what happens, because I dont think just them going alone to the Pac, saves the Pac. What saved the Big 12 is the 8 remaining members got on board to stick together, and were not being targeted by others. This solidified the Big 12 adding the new schools helped the content. Even if the Pac picks up SDSU, and another, the top schools left in that conference are trying hard to exit. Which if that happens, would all but destroy what is left of the conference, no matter when it happens.

 

[Clark]

That's how I think of the Big10 as well. Cal and Stanford offer nothing in athletics. Feels like they're being included for academics just in case they need to convince some university presidents to expand. The SF area looks good for the BTN, but I don't see how they move the needle for the OTA partners. They care about actual viewership not population.

Stanford offering nothing in athletics is quite the take. They're the best athletic department in the country just about every year.

 

[theshadow]

Stanford offering nothing in athletics is quite the take. They're the best athletic department in the country just about every year.

It's relatively easy to win the Directors Cup when you offer 30+ sports (including ones with small national participation) and get to count the best 15 towards the total.

 

[Clonehomer]

Stanford offering nothing in athletics is quite the take. They're the best athletic department in the country just about every year.

They do that by offering a ton of non-revenue sports. Again, none of those matter here. The Big10 isn't going to bring them in because their women's field hockey team is nationally ranked.

 

[JHUNSY]

Lol

 

[HoopsTournament]

They do that by offering a ton of non-revenue sports. Again, none of those matter here. The Big10 isn't going to bring them in because their women's field hockey team is nationally ranked.

Don’t forget Water Polo. They dominate that sport.

 

[Clark]

They do that by offering a ton of non-revenue sports. Again, none of those matter here. The Big10 isn't going to bring them in because their women's field hockey team is nationally ranked.

I didn't say they were some great TV draw or football powerhouse. Still a good athletic department

 

[2speedy1]

Engage fake twitter accounts!!!

We are getting destroyed now.

 

[exCyDing]

Saw some wild unconfirmed rumor on Utah fan youtube channel that San Diego State was offered Pac12 invite and gave them a "let us think it over" answer rather than joining.

I figured they were more of a "invite them to crush Pac addition" than a goal in itself. If 2-4 Pac schools join Big 12 do they still make any sense?

Ugh, did you have to bring up SDSU again?

I’d be surprised if the PAC offered SDSU unless they know at least one other school is going to leave. The PAC needs to stay at 10 schools to have a championship game and generate that revenue. But adding more schools than that just starts diluting their payouts.

On the other hand, would SDSU agree to take a much lower cut of conference revenues? Like maybe 1/3 of what the others are getting? Is there another school the PAC could add that would take that deal? It’d still be significantly more than they’re making in the MWC. At the same time, that’s introducing unequal revenue distributions and it would open that door up for OR/WA/Stanford.

The PAC as a brand probably won’t die. It’s a better brand name than the MWC. If most current PAC members end up leaving, OR St and WA St and whomever else is left would be more likely to invite MWC members to the PAC rather than the other way around.

 

[isu81]

It's relatively easy to win the Directors Cup when you offer 30+ sports (including ones with small national participation) and get to count the best 15 towards the total.

You may want to look at their football performance over the past 10-15 years as well.

 

[scyclonekid]

It’s over for the PAC, just rumors of the big ten adding those four schools should be enough for the 6 to be calling us right now. Our brand is way better it’s not even close.

 

[theshadow]

You may want to look at their football performance over the past 10-15 years as well.

You may want to look at the post I was responding to.