B1G, SEC, Big 12, ACC. 4 Bids total. 1 each
Group of 5 . 1 Bid total….not each.
At Large. 7 Bids total
12 Team CFP. Highest ranked get 1st round bye.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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B1G, SEC, Big 12, ACC. 4 Bids total. 1 each
Group of 5 . 1 Bid total….not each.
At Large. 7 Bids total
12 Team CFP. Highest ranked get 1st round bye.
Oh, I was reading that as one each for the G5 champions, my mistake
I think you are right that this is where it’s headed but I hate the concept of multiple rounds of playoffs in D1A. Unless Big 12 champ Iowa State gets to host SEC #4 in mid-December, which would be glorious and suck at the same time. Having college kids play potentially 17 games is over-the-top, including throughout fall semester finals. Plus, Alabama and Georgia could win every game by 30 on the way to the finals so what’s the point?
FCS does it. And theoretically it would only be 2 teams that play the maximum and 2 more teams that play one less than maximum. For all other schools it is like a Bowl Game. One Playoff game. It is not every team playing that many games.
Flug empire guy on twitter (maybe 1/2 step up from MHVER3 is saying OR, WA, Stanford and ND to join in 2024, and the B1G creating a semifinal weekend as the final conference game, where the top 4 are matched up, and the rest matched up by schedule
Greg Flager has another thread going this morning from his "BTM" Source with PAC12 & Notre Dame move to BIG coming. FWIW....
https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1552645660196978689?s=20&t=FkVBB02mYVlYIYubxSHbYw
https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1552646057011679232?s=20&t=FkVBB02mYVlYIYubxSHbYw
https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1552645660196978689?s=20&t=FkVBB02mYVlYIYubxSHbYw
https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1552646057011679232?s=20&t=FkVBB02mYVlYIYubxSHbYw
FCS also has an 11-game regular season and no CCGs. So that's 2 fewer games right off the bat.
Eventually but not for a while. No one has beaten a GOR yet.
ND, Stanford, Oregon, Washington to the B1G would guarantee our pick of the corner schools plus Cal. Could be an interesting situation if we only want 4, or maybe we take all five plus Washington State or San Diego State and grow to 18. The B1G would already be at 20, after all.
Cal + SDSU could be a pretty intriguing California base for our league, along with the four corners.
If the PAC12 becomes OSU, Wazzu, and MWC remnants... is it still considered P5 ie Autonomous?? If not, that takes away one of your auto bids.
I think they will go for 16 at this point. SEC figures in 5-10 years their money will put the ACC (if it still exists), Big12 and G5 so far out of contention they will get 10 spots of the 16 and keep the vast majority of the vast money.
There are only ever 1-3 truly elite teams every year. There's really no competitive reason to have more than 4 team CFP. CFP expansion is ALL about the extra $1B TV money to be had...
Except ESPN can be patient with the ACC. Why call up FSU, Clemson, UNC, and VT just to pay them SEC money? ESPN already has the ACC locked up for another 14 years at what is looking more and more like a steal of a price.
Let's go with the scenario that the Big 10 does move on expanding to 20 with ND, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington. The obvious next domino is the 4-corner schools will join up with the Big 12. Presumably FOX will make a play for the Big 12 media rights deal in order to tie up that programing.
What you end up with is ESPN having the SEC (16 team) as their premier brand and the ACC (14 team) as the second, while FOX has the Big 10 (20 team) as the marquee league, and the Big 12 (16 team) as the second. And the unfortunate leftovers are Cal, Oregon St., and Wazzu.
I am still not 100% sold that Oregon makes the B1G. Poor academics and the cable footprint is meh; they may just not be that excited about them. Stanford, UW, and ND (of course) are the easy top 3. I get Cal adds nothing Stanford didn't already give you. But between Cal & Oregon, idk. Oregon makes more sense athletically and financially. Yeah, Oregon wins that tie. They join Nebby as the "dumb" schools.
As far as Big12 takes... 4 corners make 16. I think you have to wait until the ACC splits, and see what are the B1G and SEC leftovers. You might be better off smaller, with a stronger eastern presence, than bigger at 24, if the 4 out west are Cal, SDST, OrgSt and Wazzu. Or maybe even 18 or 21, with three 6 or 7 team divisions (east, north central, sw). Lots of ways it could shake out, keep your powder dry for now of course.
They WILL have to rebrand the thing. Big12 won't make a lick of sense if it is Orlando to Pullman, and WV to Phx...
Agreed I’m not sure any of them are B1G takes (other than ND). But Warren’s comments seem to strongly imply that they’ll add somebody.
Assuming for argument that it’s ND, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington, I’m warming to the idea of taking Cal, San Diego State, and the four corners. Oregon St and Wazzu sadly end up in the MWC.
I don’t really see a world where Utah or Colorado are takes but Cal isn’t. If you think no one gives a **** about college football in California, fair, but that’s also true in Colorado, and there 8 times as many people in CA than CO.
It will be valuable to have a presence in California. The future is coast to coast superconferences. The Big 12 wants to be that 3rd league. We want to be in California, Texas, Florida.
Of course if the TV guys say no, then it’s a no. We don’t know that. But I think it would be a yes if Arizona and Colorado are also yesses.
With 18 schools, do something like 2 protected rivals plus 6 of the other 15 schools, and then the last weekend is a semifinal game with the teams seeded 5 through 18 also paired up by the conference for a ninth game.
No one has had 14 years and $800 million x 4 schools to try.
If schools can leave early, before 2036, they will leave soon
There’s a lot of “GORs can be broken” takes and zero actual breaking of GORs. Same as last summer.
I would agree that the Big10 adding Cal & Stanford is redundant from a TV exposure standpoint. Especially when their sport brands pale USC & UCLA.
But it doesn't seem cost effective from a travel or scheduling perspective for the Big10 to add an odd number of Pac12 teams.
Adding ND creates an even number, which is ideal from a divisions & scheduling perspective. But ND is right in the middle of Big10's geography. And 21 teams would support three 7 team divisions.
It seems like there are curve balls with realignment. To keep an even # of Pac12 adds, could we see the Big10 add the highest media value school among CU, ASU or UU?
But it doesn't seem cost effective from a travel or scheduling perspective for the Big10 to add an odd number of Pac12 teams.
Adding ND creates an even number, which is ideal from a divisions & scheduling perspective. But ND is right in the middle of Big10's geography. And 21 teams would support three 7 team divisions.
It seems like there are curve balls with realignment. To keep an even # of Pac12 adds, could we see the Big10 add the highest media value school among CU, ASU or UU?
