Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[1UNI2ISU]

What’s going to be fun is when ESPN decides to outbid NBC for the Notre Dame home games that are up soon. Throws a bit of a wrench in NBC’s Big Ten idea to push things toward those Notre Dame home games.

The other part of this is Big Ten deal is this draft for the games by Fox, CBS and NBC. If Fox indeed always gets the top game at noon not sure how the order goes for CBS and NBC or if they just rotate every other during this draft. Regardless look at a lot of those weeks in the Big Ten, that third best game, which NBC or CBS would get is a lot of Minnesota v. Michigan State, Iowa v. Purdue, etc. I just went through the weeks, so yes to keep media partners happy (consideration going how much they are paying) they are going to need to schedule smart and find more big games.

Also Ohio State is going to be seeing a lot of noon ET kicks, so hope the Buckeye fans like that. Unless they are going to be able to flex games like NBC Sunday Night Football has. Will be interesting.

Either way the Big 12 needs to have a couple of teams replace OU as the consistent CFP threat to build up the brands of those schools and create bigger games. Will take awhile but view it kind of like Gonzaga bball. They are one of the elite college hoops brands after two decades of winning like they have. We need a couple of schools like that for football moving forward to build to that. Unfortunately Baylor could be one of them barf.

The problem with your first statement is Notre Dame isn't going even open up for bids for football. They love that NBC exclusivity and NBC is more than willing to pay them what they need to stay where they are.

I know it's been mentioned, but there are tons of Big Ten games that are going to pop big ratings that CBS and NBC are going to be more than taken care of and they're going to get their fair share of Ohio State, Michigan, SC, Penn State anyway. Plus Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa, Nebraska, UCLA are all reliable ratings draws as is Northwestern when they're good. If Illinois could ever figure it out, they would be too.

 

[Gonzo]

I have an Uncle who went there and all his kids(my cousins) did too and they all hate the Big Ten. But fan/rivalry hate is different than the administration. They hate the Big Ten too, but If ND feels it is in their best interest to join the Big Ten(not saying they will), they will hug it out and join.

And I'm half Irish at minimum.

Pretty sure everyone has a little Irish in them.

 

[Clonedogg]

Pretty sure everyone has a little Irish in them.

Well my wife for sure does, at least twice a week...

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

I know this is old news but where's George Kremepuff screaming 'quit lobbing grenades!!' Tries to play tough guy with the Big 12 for imagined grenades while Kevin Warren and his own conference schools are setting off nuclear blasts.

The P12 Comish knows he cannot stop any of his schools from leaving and going to the B10 and make 60 million more per year, but he thinks he can stop them from going to the B12 and making 5 to 10 more a year.

I would say, if he makes a big deal in the press and pisses off the B10, they will just expand again, nab four more teams, and he will be out of a job. He does not think the B12 can come up with enough money to make his remaining schools move. So he can take potshots at the B12 and not have it hurt him.

 

[Gonzo]

Well my wife for sure does, at least twice a week...

I remember my 30s.

 

[Shawker]

Well my wife for sure does, at least twice a week...

Your mailman is Irish?

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

That’s over 100 years ago. I don’t believe they hate the Big Ten over that. Again, they are already Big Ten members in hockey.

A lot of EIU fans call ND the Fainting Irish, because ND supposedly was faking injuries in a game with EIU that occurred in the 1950"s. I doubt any Iowa fan that is still alive was actually at the game and remembers seeing it. But they still do it today, pushing 75 years later.

 

[Gonzo]

A lot of EIU fans call ND the Fainting Irish, because ND supposedly was faking injuries in a game with EIU that occurred in the 1950"s. I doubt any Iowa fan that is still alive was actually at the game and remembers seeing it. But they still do it today, pushing 75 years later.

Still p*sses me off.

 

[Klubber]

I haven't been following this closely but how the hell is Big12, ACC and Pac12 going to survive? SEC, Big10 and ND are going to take over NBC, FOX and CBS. Big12, PAC12 and ACC are going to fight over ESPN spots?

Take a deep breath, relax, pour a glass of your favorite adult beverage and enjoy your Friday night. The Big XII will be just fine.

The B1G's new media deal does not monopolize the airwaves. There are new media players being added to the mix and as a result more TV slots for everyone.

 

[Klubber]

They’ve had an uptick in recruiting classes and Schiano is a good coach who has done it before. They have already improved drastically since he got there.

He was coaching in the Big East first go around. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[cyatheart]

I just went to the Kansas board, I never do that, but I did for sone reason. Holy hell, they are just in another world. These guys really think the big ten or sec are going to take them.

I mean they have no idea football even is a thing, like it doesn't even exist. They are in the best basketball conference in history, it's the perfect conference for them.

Why the hell is someone going to give ku 100m for basketball? It's just crazy.

 

[Klubber]

There were 21 last year in 13 weeks, not counting the CCG or non-controlled (road) games.

And just for fun I counted another 6 with future members: Cincy, UH, BYU & UCF.

I don't know where OP was getting 2 or 3 in the last 10 years.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Still p*sses me off.

You are pissed about something that you did not see, were not at and occurred 79 years ago? That is a little extreme

 

[Gonzo]

You are pissed about something that you did not see, were not at and occurred 79 years ago? That is a little extreme

Dude, I was kidding.

 

[HFCS]

The problem with your first statement is Notre Dame isn't going even open up for bids for football. They love that NBC exclusivity and NBC is more than willing to pay them what they need to stay where they are.

I know it's been mentioned, but there are tons of Big Ten games that are going to pop big ratings that CBS and NBC are going to be more than taken care of and they're going to get their fair share of Ohio State, Michigan, SC, Penn State anyway. Plus Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa, Nebraska, UCLA are all reliable ratings draws as is Northwestern when they're good. If Illinois could ever figure it out, they would be too.

I met two NW fans in the 15 years I lived in Chicago and one of them was an Iowa State fan who just happened to live five blocks from the stadium so he joined up. I only met one Illinois fan. People born in Chicago just don't like college sports at all, the Bears SNL sketch is documentary footage. There are tons of college fans there but they are Wisconsin, ND, Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, and Michigan State fans in that order.

Rutgers, NW, Illinois, Minn and Maryland are just along for the ride in all of this. I don't know enough about Indiana and Purdue but I suspect they are too. I live near UCLA now and they have very little actual fan interest if you're on campus or near rose bowl on gameday. USC is closer to feeling like they have real fans like Iowa or ISU on a gameday.

 

[isucy86]

I think they are massively overplaying their hand here. I don't think UCLA is all that valuable honestly. Certainly not enough to justify dragging Cal along for the ride. If the regents dig in the B1G will just grab Stanford instead of UCLA and go about their business, leaving both of the public schools drowning in debt in a failing league.

Agree. UCLA made sense as a travel partner. Keep costs low.

But from a TV Rights value schools like UW, Oregon, ASU and Stanford have just as much value as UCLA.

The Big10 will add more Pac12 teams, so if UCLA is important the Big10 can include Cal as part of the group.

 

[isucy86]

A lot of EIU fans call ND the Fainting Irish, because ND supposedly was faking injuries in a game with EIU that occurred in the 1950"s. I doubt any Iowa fan that is still alive was actually at the game and remembers seeing it. But they still do it today, pushing 75 years later.

My dad is alive and one of those Iowa fans.

As a devout Catholic with a lot of staunch ND friends, he has never been a big ND fan. He has softened in his later years. But growing up in the 70's, I lost count the # of times I heard about ND faking injuries.

That said, in 2022 I think ND LOVES its independence more than hating Big10. What school wouldn't want ND's situation.

 

[isucy86]

As long as NBC steps up when their contact with ND expires after 2025 season- the Irish will stay independent.

The Big10 agreements with CBS & NBC under the recently announced agreement will give ND a really good idea how much they could get paid in a per game basis.

Pac12 additions aren't going to influence ND. The Irish will have to make a decision when the ACC breaks up.

 

[Gonzo]

Agree. UCLA made sense as a travel partner. Keep costs low.

But from a TV Rights value schools like UW, Oregon, ASU and Stanford have just as much value as UCLA.

The Big10 will add more Pac12 teams, so if UCLA is important the Big10 can include Cal as part of the group.

Academics and the MBB brand of UCLA don't hurt. This is why I think UNC is an immediate add whenever they become viable. MBB doesn't pay the bills but bringing in those elite brands are worth the cost I'd think.

 

[GBlade]

Has anyone broken down how many timeslots are in the football season across the existing linear channel providers (ESPN, ABC, FOX, NBC, and CBS)? From the BIG contract it seams like we can infer the going rate for each timeslot and infer how much money the ACC is leaving on the table and what would be left for BIGXII or PAC-10.