This thread has seen better days.
Perhaps when we get to 10,000 posts, we can begin a 'Recruit Lists v3.0' thread. Just a thought.
This thread has seen better days.
Perhaps when we get to 10,000 posts, we can begin a 'Recruit Lists v3.0' thread. Just a thought.
Its been the star of many plays.
Perhaps when we get to 10,000 posts, we can begin a 'Recruit Lists v3.0' thread. Just a thought.
Just curious, how many stars was Buddy Hield out of high school?
Perhaps when we get to 10,000 posts, we can begin a 'Recruit Lists v3.0' thread. Just a thought.
FYI... The competition.
@jeffborzello: Virginia Tech, Kansas State and Ole Miss have been in to see ESPN 100 forward Romello White over the past two days.
Got it-I missed the PG point.
Here's a little research I did. In the past 4 years and for the coming season, when we have experienced/ expect to experience great success, the following guys played (or are expected to play) at least 15 minutes/game. I have noted the number of stars per Rivals of each coming out of high school or juco, and put them in to categories:
5-star: Royce White
4-star: Georges Niang, Monte Morris, Jameel McKay, Bryce Dejean-Jones, Matt Thomas, Korie Luscious, Chris Allen, Deonte Burton
3-star: Melvin Ejim, Naz Long,
3-star juco: Dustin Hogue, Tyrus McGee
3-star or less, but had proven themselves at other schools prior to coming to Iowa State: Abdel Nader, DeAndre Kane, Will Clyburn, Chris Babb, Scott Christopherson, Hallice Cook.
The only 3-star guys we've recruited directly from high school that played real minutes are Ejim and Long. Additionally, there's not a 4-star guy that didn't contribute at a high level (excluding Custer, who I believe would have ultimately-left too early to tell).
The remainder of our recruits over this period are 3-star or less guys that saw little to no action on the court with names like Sledge, SDW, Railey, Gibson, Okoro, etc.
I know this isn't necessarily a revelation, as there are studies about the need for 4/4+ star guys, but talent is needed to compete at the level we want to compete at. And stars matter. I will add that it is unrealistic to expect a guy like Prohm to come to ISU and be hauling in 4-star guys right off the bat. I believe he ultimately will and that, until then, he will find guys that can play, whether that be from the high school ranks, juco or in the transfer market.
Thanks a lot. Now that dumb song is stuck in my head.Its been the star of many plays.
Got it-I missed the PG point.
Here's a little research I did. In the past 4 years and for the coming season, when we have experienced/ expect to experience great success, the following guys played (or are expected to play) at least 15 minutes/game. I have noted the number of stars per Rivals of each coming out of high school or juco, and put them in to categories:
5-star: Royce White
4-star: Georges Niang, Monte Morris, Jameel McKay, Bryce Dejean-Jones, Matt Thomas, Korie Luscious, Chris Allen, Deonte Burton
3-star: Melvin Ejim, Naz Long,
3-star juco: Dustin Hogue, Tyrus McGee
3-star or less, but had proven themselves at other schools prior to coming to Iowa State: Abdel Nader, DeAndre Kane, Will Clyburn, Chris Babb, Scott Christopherson, Hallice Cook.
The only 3-star guys we've recruited directly from high school that played real minutes are Ejim and Long. Additionally, there's not a 4-star guy that didn't contribute at a high level (excluding Custer, who I believe would have ultimately-left too early to tell).
The remainder of our recruits over this period are 3-star or less guys that saw little to no action on the court with names like Sledge, SDW, Railey, Gibson, Okoro, etc.
I know this isn't necessarily a revelation, as there are studies about the need for 4/4+ star guys, but talent is needed to compete at the level we want to compete at. And stars matter. I will add that it is unrealistic to expect a guy like Prohm to come to ISU and be hauling in 4-star guys right off the bat. I believe he ultimately will and that, until then, he will find guys that can play, whether that be from the high school ranks, juco or in the transfer market.
I think fans are too hung-up/obsessed about the amount of stars a recruit reels in. Granted, if they are a 4 star recruit, generally they will be good at the next level. But there are some busts. Then you have the flip side of the coin, where 3 star or less recruits are gems, and exceed expectations.
@TravisHines21: Romello White will not be making his scheduled visit to Iowa State this weekend, per source. Sounds like the tentative plan is for next wknd
@AlexHalsted: Despite planning to be in Ames this weekend, PF Romello White will not be making the official visit. Late change of plans, I'm told.
@TravisHines21: White instead will visit South Carolina this weekend, according to @coreyevans_10
Son of a B....
Well he is still visiting at least but would prefer him to take in CyHawk game to the Toledo for the experience.
Power move by Frank Martin here, doubt this is purely coincidence. He's aware of the atmosphere.