Remember that JP keeps things very close to the vest so we probably won't hear any leaks from the AD. We probably won't know how it will go down until after the dust has settled.
Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC
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Seems to be most reasonable. Only issue it appears Tech/TCU/Baylor trying to reach out to Pac12 first... gonna be a big game of poker that no one can officially really make the first move, but need to make sure things are lined up behind scene.
Why? The big 12 without Texas or Oklahoma would be a greatly reduced payout. I doubt that the Arizona schools want to join the Big 12 and they are the only schools in the conversation that could move the financial needle close to back to what it is now. The best chance of keeping the money coming in as close to what it is now is to join the Big Ten.
What is your first choice? Is there even a close number 2? You would not want to see games at Michigan, Ohio St, PSU and Wisconsin for example? Those are some big time stadiums. Not interesting to you?
Must have been because I'm told loyal fans are what conferences are looking for. I'm sure adding eyes in St. Louis and KC helped.
If he wants to go against everything he believes in and preaches constantly, and be a hypocrite....... then yes he'll leave.
It certainly wasn't because of a loyal fan base. No one hides their gear and disappears from fan interactions after a loss faster than Mizzou fans.
From a Rutgers beat writer
www.nj.com
What should Big Ten do if SEC adds Oklahoma, Texas?
by James Kratch, NJ.com
INDIANAPOLIS - Kevin Warren's first Big Ten Media Days press conference was already going to be fascinating. Now the second year commissioner has had a wild curveball no one saw coming thrown his way.
A mammoth earthquake hit the college sports landscape Wednesday when the Houston Chronicle reported Oklahoma and Texas have been working to bolt the Big 12 and jump to the SEC.
So when Warren hits the dais at Lucas Oil Stadium on Thursday to kick off the league’s media days, throw the conference expansion brick onto a question load that already included NIL, the prospect of a 12-team College Football Playoff, COVID-19 protocols and vaccines and, of course, the fact many sections of the league outwardly rebelled a year ago as the Big Ten canceled its season and then resumed it amid a pandemic.
It’s hard to imagine Warren will have any definitive answer when asked about the prospect of the Big Ten growing from 14 schools to 16 (or more). How could he? His bosses -- the school chancellors and presidents -- likely have not given much thought to expansion. And while there appears to be plenty of fire, we’ve been down this road with Oklahoma and Texas before. They were as good as gone to the Pac-12 a decade ago, and then they weren’t. And the political issues that killed that deal -- Baylor, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech aren’t just going to sit by idly -- will undoubtedly still exist.
But let’s say it all comes to pass and the two powers do make the move to the SEC, throwing the Big 12′s future into doubt and creating the first true superconference. There will be immense pressure on the Big Ten to respond. So what will it do? What should it do?
Maybe nothing?
Here’s why the Big Ten may stand pat, and perhaps should stand pat, if the carousel starts spinning again:
The white whale is still off the board. Notre Dame is tied up in the ACC's media grant of rights through the 2035-36 academic year. And even if the Fighting Irish could wiggle out, an expanded playoff strengthens their resolve to remain a football independent. The Big Ten would crawl through broken glass and walk over lava to add Notre Dame. Everyone knows that. But it's hard to see how the opportunity will ever present itself in the current climate.
The same goes for other ACC targets. The conference boasts five AAU members -- an unofficial Big Ten membership prerequisite -- that could be Big Ten targets: Duke, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Virginia and Pittsburgh. But all of them are just as tied up as Notre Dame, if not more due to their all-sports affiliation with the ACC. Politics would also be a major issue. The statehouse intervened to get Virginia Tech into the ACC alongside Virginia and North Carolina State and Wake Forest would likely fight to keep Tobacco Road united.
A Pac-12 raid feels unlikely. Arizona and Colorado would be inspired additions. Both are AAU members that would be contiguous to the current geographic footprint and bring booming populations, fertile recruiting grounds and big media markets. But the conference has never gotten its hands as dirty as other leagues when it comes to expansion. The Big Ten has added four members in the modern era, but it has never outright poached a school. Rutgers had legitimate reasons to go out and seek the invite, as did Maryland, Nebraska and Penn State. Unless the Pac-12 begins to implode -- which certainly could happen -- it's hard to imagine the Big Ten would brazenly move on its members. And even then, a push to the far West could still be too bold for the league's leaders.
Would the Big Ten want the Big 12 leftovers? Iowa State and Kansas are AAU members and fit the Big Ten's footprint. The Cyclones would fit into the league just fine, but they would not move the needle much from a big-picture standpoint. It would feel like an act of charity more than a strategic pickup. The Jayhawks would be the splashier addition, but does the Big Ten want to get into bed with an athletics department that seems to have a new scandal every other week? Something tells us a league as holier-than-thou as this one does not want Bill Self's lifetime contract on its books.
The SEC caveat. Missouri and Vanderbilt are SEC wallflowers. And they'd become even more irrelevant if Oklahoma and Texas join. But they would fit the footprint and if you put them in the Big Ten, they would be viable programs in all sports from the start. You could even throw Kentucky into this group as well. The idea of a school leaving the SEC seems crazy, but would anyone miss them and/or stand in their way if the Big Ten is determined to expand?
The bottom line. If the SEC does add Oklahoma and Texas, it feels like it would be the perfect surgical strike: That league gets worlds richer and stronger while the Big Ten and everyone else have little to no recourse to respond, and the right move becomes no move.
Conference expansion: What should Big Ten do if SEC adds Oklahoma, Texas?
Oklahoma and Texas are reportedly looking to bolt the Big 12 and leap to the SEC. If it happens, how should the Big Ten respond?
What should Big Ten do if SEC adds Oklahoma, Texas?
by James Kratch, NJ.com
INDIANAPOLIS - Kevin Warren's first Big Ten Media Days press conference was already going to be fascinating. Now the second year commissioner has had a wild curveball no one saw coming thrown his way.
A mammoth earthquake hit the college sports landscape Wednesday when the Houston Chronicle reported Oklahoma and Texas have been working to bolt the Big 12 and jump to the SEC.
So when Warren hits the dais at Lucas Oil Stadium on Thursday to kick off the league’s media days, throw the conference expansion brick onto a question load that already included NIL, the prospect of a 12-team College Football Playoff, COVID-19 protocols and vaccines and, of course, the fact many sections of the league outwardly rebelled a year ago as the Big Ten canceled its season and then resumed it amid a pandemic.
It’s hard to imagine Warren will have any definitive answer when asked about the prospect of the Big Ten growing from 14 schools to 16 (or more). How could he? His bosses -- the school chancellors and presidents -- likely have not given much thought to expansion. And while there appears to be plenty of fire, we’ve been down this road with Oklahoma and Texas before. They were as good as gone to the Pac-12 a decade ago, and then they weren’t. And the political issues that killed that deal -- Baylor, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech aren’t just going to sit by idly -- will undoubtedly still exist.
But let’s say it all comes to pass and the two powers do make the move to the SEC, throwing the Big 12′s future into doubt and creating the first true superconference. There will be immense pressure on the Big Ten to respond. So what will it do? What should it do?
Maybe nothing?
Here’s why the Big Ten may stand pat, and perhaps should stand pat, if the carousel starts spinning again:
The white whale is still off the board. Notre Dame is tied up in the ACC's media grant of rights through the 2035-36 academic year. And even if the Fighting Irish could wiggle out, an expanded playoff strengthens their resolve to remain a football independent. The Big Ten would crawl through broken glass and walk over lava to add Notre Dame. Everyone knows that. But it's hard to see how the opportunity will ever present itself in the current climate.
The same goes for other ACC targets. The conference boasts five AAU members -- an unofficial Big Ten membership prerequisite -- that could be Big Ten targets: Duke, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Virginia and Pittsburgh. But all of them are just as tied up as Notre Dame, if not more due to their all-sports affiliation with the ACC. Politics would also be a major issue. The statehouse intervened to get Virginia Tech into the ACC alongside Virginia and North Carolina State and Wake Forest would likely fight to keep Tobacco Road united.
A Pac-12 raid feels unlikely. Arizona and Colorado would be inspired additions. Both are AAU members that would be contiguous to the current geographic footprint and bring booming populations, fertile recruiting grounds and big media markets. But the conference has never gotten its hands as dirty as other leagues when it comes to expansion. The Big Ten has added four members in the modern era, but it has never outright poached a school. Rutgers had legitimate reasons to go out and seek the invite, as did Maryland, Nebraska and Penn State. Unless the Pac-12 begins to implode -- which certainly could happen -- it's hard to imagine the Big Ten would brazenly move on its members. And even then, a push to the far West could still be too bold for the league's leaders.
Would the Big Ten want the Big 12 leftovers? Iowa State and Kansas are AAU members and fit the Big Ten's footprint. The Cyclones would fit into the league just fine, but they would not move the needle much from a big-picture standpoint. It would feel like an act of charity more than a strategic pickup. The Jayhawks would be the splashier addition, but does the Big Ten want to get into bed with an athletics department that seems to have a new scandal every other week? Something tells us a league as holier-than-thou as this one does not want Bill Self's lifetime contract on its books.
The SEC caveat. Missouri and Vanderbilt are SEC wallflowers. And they'd become even more irrelevant if Oklahoma and Texas join. But they would fit the footprint and if you put them in the Big Ten, they would be viable programs in all sports from the start. You could even throw Kentucky into this group as well. The idea of a school leaving the SEC seems crazy, but would anyone miss them and/or stand in their way if the Big Ten is determined to expand?
The bottom line. If the SEC does add Oklahoma and Texas, it feels like it would be the perfect surgical strike: That league gets worlds richer and stronger while the Big Ten and everyone else have little to no recourse to respond, and the right move becomes no move.
I don’t think that would make him a hypocrite. But someone of his caliber isn’t going to be satisfied with the challenge of playing Memphis or whoever.
This fanbase has spent years pretending to be happier in the Big 12 than the B1G just because our rival is there. In reality, they make more money, they have better trips for fans from Iowa, and most importantly, they are not subject to the whims of oil-drunk cowboys who could destroy our athletic department on a whim. At any point in the last 11 years at a minimum, we would have accepted a B1G invitation on the spot.
This article may be the biggest slap in the face I've read to date. Sooner spin suggesting everyone will land on their feet.
SEC expansion: What about the rest of the Big 12?
On Wednesday a report surfaced that pointed to the Oklahoma Sooners looking to jump ship to the SEC. That shook the college football landscape and for good reason. Not only is Oklahoma looking at a change but it also appears its biggest rivals, the Texas Longhorns, are…
soonerswire.usatoday.com
He'd definitely be going against everything he preaches and talks about. If you don't want to call that hypocrisy.... that's up to you.
Whoever the heck Kirk Bohls is says it’s a done deal and could happen in a week. I f-in hate this ****.
Call me crazy, but with the way this is all looking, is attempting to go independent a possibility? At least until the dust settles if we don't get a decent invite? If we can keep Campbell there will be schools willing to schedule us. I'm not sure what that does to revenue, but desperate times call for thinking outside the box.
I highly doubt the Big Ten wants to send an invite, and I'm not so sure joining the PAC is even a smart move considering the lack of rivalries and distances involved. That's even assuming they would be a willing participant.
I highly doubt the Big Ten wants to send an invite, and I'm not so sure joining the PAC is even a smart move considering the lack of rivalries and distances involved. That's even assuming they would be a willing participant.
That writer can go f*ck himself.This article may be the biggest slap in the face I've read to date. Sooner spin suggesting everyone will land on their feet.
SEC expansion: What about the rest of the Big 12?
On Wednesday a report surfaced that pointed to the Oklahoma Sooners looking to jump ship to the SEC. That shook the college football landscape and for good reason. Not only is Oklahoma looking at a change but it also appears its biggest rivals, the Texas Longhorns, are…soonerswire.usatoday.com
Bingo. The Big 10's only course of action will be to add Iowa State and Kansas, which they will not do
