Interesting take...from the other side
Mike Bianchi: UCF fans should applaud AAC’s Aresco for trying to ruin Big 12 (msn.com)
Mike Bianchi: UCF fans should applaud AAC’s Aresco for trying to ruin Big 12 (msn.com)
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Lol. Big 12 taking the 2-4 best AAC would still cause them to eventually lose P5 status. They’re deranged if they somehow think the remnants going to the AAC will somehow turn it into a P5.
Right that was my thought too, only way I could see it happen, is if Espn had some sort of media blitz for it...?
Dude is an ass.
This is nothing more than crabs in a bucket pulling each other down.
Can't wait to see his article when the Big 12 adds Houston and Cincinnati and stops at 10. Suddenly the AAC poaching won't be met with open arms in Orlando.
Adding any AAC programs is a non-starter for the remaining 8 (or 7).
Or when the Big12 add UCF, will he become a fanboy of the Big12 praising its virtues?
Easy to say that now; not so easy if the best alternative is stay as an 8-team league and risk ESPN using that as a basis to slash the TV contract.
ESPN is obligated to fulfill the existing contract especially given they orchestrated the departure of OU/UT. After the contract expires and if the B12 stays intact, I hope like heck the B12 tells ESPN (and AAC) to eff themselves and pursue options with new entrants and their streaming platforms. The only G5 school the B12 should consider adding is BYU and ask Utah/CU to join if the money is right for them when the P12 deals expires.
Looking at revenue by school is just an all-around bad way to evaluate if a school helps or hurts a conference. These revenues tend to be lumped into three major categories:
1. Media revenue, which is almost entirely a function of the big names in their conference
2. As you point out - money the schools borrow or use from University operations
3. Donations, which they do not share with the rest of the conference
The only somewhat accurate way to get a comparative value of a team to a conference is to do some sort of weighted average of
A. The old school cable/satellite subscribers a team's market brings to a conference, and
B. The potential ad value and subscriber value in an a la carte or purpose-driven viewership model, which probably has to be done by looking at TV viewership and attendance.
How do you assign a weight to each? I'm not sure. A is more weighted than it will be in 10 years, and vice versa.
This is why none of this is very straightforward. There's not some sort of $ value that you can easily attach to a team. The best you could do is try to figure out the current value in a media contract that a comparable team might be bringing in for a conference now, then doing some sort of comp. using A and B above to estimate a new team's value to a conference.
I am sure this would be the Big 12’s position, and I’m much less sure that a court would order this after hearing both the Big 12’s and ESPN’s arguments.
I think BYU is the top option too. I can’t imagine any other P5 school joining the Big 12 at the moment. And I don’t think a league with less than 10 schools minimum is very viable. That means at least one AAC school, or maybe Boise State too or something.
Living down here in Orlando I can tell you that stinks of UCF fandom.
The local radio down here has been absolutely convinced that the AAC is the big dog and need to be raiding the Big XII. The common theme is that the Big XII stole WVU and TCU so turn about is fair play.
The local blowhards also see UCF as VASTLY superior to any of the remaining 8. There is a level of delusional down here only rivaled by the chest pounding found in Iowa City.
Lol well they can dream. They have multiple conference losses the couple of seasons…. In the American. they aren’t some juggernaut. Maybe frosty will come back and save them.
Wait and you’ll find out when it gets there. If you think ESPN’s lawyers won’t have arguments why they can pay us less if we have an 8-school league then I can’t help you.
One of the UCF sites (maybe the SB nation one) tried to a similar claim because over the past few years if you omitted Texas and OU games TV ratings were similar. However, if you looked at last year, the Big 12 non-Texas and OU games had a significant advantage over the AAC games. Also because you are omitting OU, that means you are not counting the Big 12 CCG, yet they WERE counting the AAC CCG, which inflated their ratings. You also had a couple seasons in there where Cincy and UCF were being promoted and getting some good slots you wouldn't typically get for AAC teams.
Reality is the top few in the AAC are in that range with the Big 12 leftovers in terms of value. But the conference as a whole is not good, and not valuable. The Big 12 leftovers taking the best of the AAC MIGHT have a shot at maintaining something of a power conference status. The AAC remaining intact and adding the Big 12 has no shot.
For ISU that would be absolute worst case scenario, and there's zero reason to do that until every, and I mean every option has been exhausted.
