return of Bubu

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Is anyone as excited as i am? Last year he was second off the bench in minutes per game and he provides great depth if lucious turns the ball over/ gets into foul trouble and also allows clyburn to stay at the 3 if fred wants him to.
 

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His energy off the bench is just under McGee's. He may not be the best shooter on this team, or the best defender, but he is going to make teams give him attention
 

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Is anyone as excited as i am? Last year he was second off the bench in minutes per game and he provides great depth if lucious turns the ball over/ gets into foul trouble and also allows clyburn to stay at the 3 if fred wants him to.
Yes, if I thought he would be the Bubu we saw in late 2011 but with over a year of additional development. As it is, I think Long plays before him if the game is close. He has only been practicing for a week.
 

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I just posted this on another thread. It's kind of informative I would say.

I compared Lucious' stats this year so far compared to Bubu's stats last year:

Lucious' stats this year so far:

30.9 mpg
10.1 ppg
5.5 apg
3.8 topg
1.8 rpg
1.1 spg
3.9 2 pt field goal attempts per game
1.6 2 pt makes per game
5.1 3 pt field goal attempts per game
1.8 3 pt makes per game
1.8 free throw attempts per game
1.5 free throw makes per game


Bubu's stats if he were to play 30.9 mpg:

30.9 mpg
9.0 ppg
3.4 apg
2.5 topg
3.4 rpg
.9 spg
3.5 2 pt field goal attempts per game
1.6 2 pt makes per game
1.2 3 pt field goal attempts per game
.5 3 pt makes per game
6.3 free throw attempts per game
4.2 free throw makes per game


So yeah I would say Bubu would compare decently well to Lucious if he were to play the same amount of minutes as him. Bubu doesn't pass it as well, but he also takes care of the ball better. Bubu's points don't come from 3 pt range like Lucious' do. Bubu gets to the line much more than Lucious does though. Last year Bubu shot more free throws per minute than anyone on the team, including Royce. He also rebounds better than Lucious. I hope this paints a better picture for people of how Bubu might perform if he played more minutes. Also consider the fact that these were numbers from last season. With another year of experience this season his numbers might get even better by the time the 2013-14 season rolls around.
 

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I just posted this on another thread. It's kind of informative I would say.

I compared Lucious' stats this year so far compared to Bubu's stats last year:

Lucious' stats this year so far:

30.9 mpg
10.1 ppg
5.5 apg
3.8 topg
1.8 rpg
1.1 spg
3.9 2 pt field goal attempts per game
1.6 2 pt makes per game
5.1 3 pt field goal attempts per game
1.8 3 pt makes per game
1.8 free throw attempts per game
1.5 free throw makes per game


Bubu's stats if he were to play 30.9 mpg:

30.9 mpg
9.0 ppg
3.4 apg
2.5 topg
3.4 rpg
.9 spg
3.5 2 pt field goal attempts per game
1.6 2 pt makes per game
1.2 3 pt field goal attempts per game
.5 3 pt makes per game
6.3 free throw attempts per game
4.2 free throw makes per game


So yeah I would say Bubu would compare decently well to Lucious if he were to play the same amount of minutes as him. Bubu doesn't pass it as well, but he also takes care of the ball better. Bubu's points don't come from 3 pt range like Lucious' do. Bubu gets to the line much more than Lucious does though. Last year Bubu shot more free throws per minute than anyone on the team, including Royce. He also rebounds better than Lucious. I hope this paints a better picture for people of how Bubu might perform if he played more minutes. Also consider the fact that these were numbers from last season. With another year of experience this season his numbers might get even better by the time the 2013-14 season rolls around.
I agree that Bubu could be extremely useful I do feel that his numbers would drop off a bit if he did play 30+ min a game just because part of Bubu's game is that he can come in when other teams are a bit tired and he can take advantage of that. I hope he can come off the bench this year still to help this team with a little more depth.
 

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I agree that Bubu could be extremely useful I do feel that his numbers would drop off a bit if he did play 30+ min a game just because part of Bubu's game is that he can come in when other teams are a bit tired and he can take advantage of that. I hope he can come off the bench this year still to help this team with a little more depth.

I agree completely.
 

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His free throws could really help us. Give us someone who attacks and can get the other teams players in foul trouble.
 

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His free throws could really help us. Give us someone who attacks and can get the other teams players in foul trouble.

Yes they could. Last year we averaged 22 free throws per game. This year 19 per game. I feel Bubu has been our missing piece this year. In 3 of our 4 losses this year Lucious didn't play well. Against Cincinnati he was 4-12 with 6 turnovers. Against UNLV remember he didn't even play PG, Clyburn did. Clyburn was 6-17 that game with 3 turnovers playing the point. Granted he had 21 points. Lucious was 2-9 that game with 0 assists against UNLV. Against Iowa Lucious was 3-13 with 7 turnovers.

Anyways the two points that I'm trying to make is:

1. Bubu can help us get to the line more and get other teams in foul trouble.

2. If we would have had Bubu during against the teams we lost to he might have been able to come in and play better than Lucious did, which might have led to a couple more victories. I feel Bubu is the difference between a 15-2 and 13-4 record IMO.
 

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Where are his minutes coming from? Who's going to play less in order for him to get 15 minutes a game? That's a lot of minutes to take away from other players who are contributing at a high level right now.
 

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Where are his minutes coming from? Who's going to play less in order for him to get 15 minutes a game? That's a lot of minutes to take away from other players who are contributing at a high level right now.
Gives Babb, Lucious, or McGee some rest while bringing in another high energy defender. I think Lucious will play both ends better with some more rest and it (maybe) cuts out some of the Clyburn PG stuff that's iffy at times.
 

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Where are his minutes coming from? Who's going to play less in order for him to get 15 minutes a game? That's a lot of minutes to take away from other players who are contributing at a high level right now.

8 minutes from Clyburn playing the PG. Clyburn then in turn will replace those minutes at the PF in place of Bookers/Percys/Niangs/Ejims minutes. I think we will play smaller now since we can more. Then the other 5-7 minutes will be taken collectively from Babb/McGee/Lucious. Maybe put Lucious at some off guard. Maybe not play Babb 33 mpg. They aren't going to come from just one person specifically.
 

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I seriously doubt Fred stops playing Clyburn at the one during portions of the game. He's gotten better at it as the seasons gone on and Fred loves the mismatch opportunities it presents. Just look at the last possession of the WVU game.

I know it won't come from one person but I don't necessarily want Babb playing less or McGee. Bubu will help but I don't think he'll play that much, especially right when he comes back.
 
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I think, and hope, the biggest contribution Bubu will make is to keep Will from having to play PG at all. He can concentrate on his forward position only, which should help the team.
 

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I seriously doubt Fred stops playing Clyburn at the one during portions of the game. He's gotten better at it as the seasons gone on and Fred loves the mismatch opportunities it presents. Just look at the last possession of the WVU game.

I know it won't come from one person but I don't necessarily want Babb playing less or McGee. Bubu will help but I don't think he'll play that much, especially right when he comes back.

I agree Bubu won't play more than 10 mpg in his first 3-5 games back. I think when he gets in the swing of things though he will some how average right around 15 mpg.

I think Babb if anyone will play less considering his shooting percentages are not good once again. I feel like Bubu will be able to come in and give Babb a break playing defense. I hope McGee doesn't get any minutes taken from him. He needs more minutes if anything.

I think that the only reason Clyburn played PG at all this year is because we don't have a backup PG. Now that we do I feel like that experiment is basically over. Clyburn isn't near the mismatch Royce was last year. He isn't that fast, he dribbles too high, and picks up his dribble all the time. I do think that occasionally Hoiberg will draw up a play for Will at the point, similar to what we saw at the West Virginia game. But I think the days of Will bringing the ball up and getting us into our offense are over when Bubu starts playing.
 
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I seriously doubt Fred stops playing Clyburn at the one during portions of the game. He's gotten better at it as the seasons gone on and Fred loves the mismatch opportunities it presents. Just look at the last possession of the WVU game.

I know it won't come from one person but I don't necessarily want Babb playing less or McGee. Bubu will help but I don't think he'll play that much, especially right when he comes back.

Of course he won't play that much when he gets right back. But when he's really going to be valuable is the tournament or late in the season when Lucious is getting worn out, or we need another lockdown defender
 

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Bubu really came on at the end of last season but the guy will be rusty so hamper your expectations for a few weeks.
 

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ughhhh. bubu scares the **** out of me every time he touches the ball.

This. Right here. I dont get what you people see in Bubu. Nice kid, glad his name was cleared. But this team is playing pretty well right now, and throwing someone out there, who quite frankly, doesnt belong in D-1 for anything other than some garbage minutes, is not a good idea. Hope I am wrong, will be the first to admit it if I am, but he is not a Big XII caliber player...
 

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