Rhoads' Contract

[Cyclonesince78]

The big problem is that we were only a 3.5 point favorite to win against a lower division team in our house.

That we lost, is an even bigger problem.

Satisfaction has little do with expectations in a particular game. Otherwise, coaches could just set expectations so low, that meeting those expectations would be quite easy.

In other words, it's not okay to suck just because you expect to suck.

I hear you...That being said, the fan base still overreacted in a major way. I always laughed at the people that are constantly optimistic and saw 8 wins...what was that based on other than coolaid. I think a good chunk of us knew this year wasn't going to be that good.

 

[Stormin]

The big problem is that we were only a 3.5 point favorite to win against a lower division team in our house.

That we lost, is an even bigger problem.

Satisfaction has little do with expectations in a particular game. Otherwise, coaches could just set expectations so low, that meeting those expectations would be quite easy.

In other words, it's not okay to suck just because you expect to suck.

A lower Division team that is rated #2 in their Division. And ranked #40 in Sagarin while we are rated #70. We suck.......but the team we sucked to is the 3 time Defending FCS Champion.....not Western Illinois.

 

[Clonefan32]

I'm thinking JP's job wouldn't be too far away if he had to go in to Leath asking for $5.25 million of Univesrity money to buy out CPR. He'd end up getting the Office Space "what exactly is you do here" talk.

 

[Luth4Cy]

I hear you...That being said, the fan base still overreacted in a major way. I always laughed at the people that are constantly optimistic and saw 8 wins...what was that based on other than coolaid. I think a good chunk of us knew this year wasn't going to be that good.

The weird thing is, those who were predicting six wins plus tend to be the ones who aren't all that upset. Had high expectations, but aren't letting one game ruin their enjoyment of this season.

 

[Cyclonesince78]

The weird thing is, those who were predicting six wins plus tend to be the ones who aren't all that upset. Had high expectations, but aren't letting one game ruin their enjoyment of this season.

That doesn't surprise me, because those people that predictetd 6-8 wins are constantly optimistic. (Which is a good thing) Might as well enjoy the season the best you can.

 

[im4cyclones]

At least those programs are taking a step back from something! And a bad season or two? Other than a few years, that's all we've known. This isn't a program taking a step back from winning national or even conference championships, it's a program that's gone from mediocre to terrible. Rhoads' "good" seasons would be enough to put most coaches on the hot seat...most people were content with Rhoads because the last five years were sold as stepping stones, not the top of the mountain.

To whom should we compare ourselves? You can't hold the same expectations here as Texas or Oklahoma. If you do, you are kidding yourself.

In this era of modern college football, find me a program with similar obstacles who has built and sustained the level of success you want/expect...

Maybe UCONN? Edsall got them to a 9-3 season in 2003, beating Indiana, Army, Buffalo, Lehigh, Kent St, Akron, Western Michigan, Rutgers, and Wake. Not exactly murderer's row. Looking at their schedules in their good years, it ain't the B12.

Maybe Minnesota? Their state doesn't produce a lot of local talent. Probably a fair comparison. When you look at it, Glen Mason's record there looks similar (not the same) to Rhoads. And what happened? They ran him off because he couldn't take them to the next level and have struggled to get back to where he was.

Purdue? Probably another good comparison. Tiller had them rolling but, again, couldn't take the next step. They ran him after a 4-8 season. How'd that work out?

 

[RustShack]

CPR won't be fired. He either starts winning which is probably what will happen, or he accepts a job somewhere else.

 

[Stormin]

The weird thing is, those who were predicting six wins plus tend to be the ones who aren't all that upset. Had high expectations, but aren't letting one game ruin their enjoyment of this season.

I was hoping for 5 wins......outside chance at 6 wins. Take one win away from those now. Now hoping for 4 wins maybe 5 wins. No way we get a bowl.

 

[cycloneworld]

Ok. I'll put on my amateur AD hat and give an answer that no one will like

1. PR is safe for 2014 *and* 2015. Why? The contract is an issue. I wouldn't want to eat that. Plus I'll have a shiny new SEZ to generate ticket sales next year

2. Bowl game or bust in 2015. Our fans are patient and realistic to a point. A trip someplace warm in December 2015 or it's time to part ways

3. If (big if) PR must go then I break the bank and overpay for an established coach. (Project: Johnny Orr) I say this because I feel the fan base is starting to sour on the "hope" sales pitch. The last "hot" coordinator hire didn't pan out either. I also can see a futue where the Power 5 leaves us behind without some kind of football success. The fan base will demand Ditka, but I will resist. Sage is on speed dial as my Project: Fred if I can't sell an established winner to relocate to Ames. (Half joking)

PR knows today that he must produce. The facilities are in place. We cannot have excuses or any losses to FCS schools. JP has tied his own hands with the current contract, but I believe PR will have 23 games to save his job. 1 loss doesn't make a season, but the pattern is disturbing

I think this is a fair and good plan. If this season is the clunker it looks to be, give Rhoads next year to make some good progress. If we have a similar year next year that will make 3 in a row and you have to think hard about making a change.

 

[AMarner32]

I think this is a fair and good plan. If this season is the clunker it looks to be, give Rhoads next year to make some good progress. If we have a similar year next year that will make 3 in a row and you have to think hard about making a change.

I really think Sage would be a good pick up. Hell, let's just have our entire staff made up of former players.
HC: Sage
OC: Blythe? Flynn?
DC: Roosevelt Maggitt is coaching somewhere... probably more possiblilities than this
QB's: Arnaud
RB's um... Alexander Robinson?
WR's: Blythe/Flynn
OL: not sure, but we could find somebody
DL: Maggitt
LB's: Knott(!!!)
DB's: Ellis Hobbs

Let's do this.

 

[Gossamer]

I was hoping for 5 wins......outside chance at 6 wins. Take one win away from those now. Now hoping for 4 wins maybe 5 wins. No way we get a bowl.

we agree with the no bowl...and I'll probably get flamed for this...but I can honestly see us not winning a game this year based on what I saw. I don't want it to be true. We're not a good team at all.

 

[LutherBlue]

The weird thing is, those who were predicting six wins plus tend to be the ones who aren't all that upset. Had high expectations, but aren't letting one game ruin their enjoyment of this season.

I have always assumed these folks were heavily medicated.

Thinking about the buyout ... if my arithmetic is correct, Coach is still owed just over $4,000,000 after the 2016 season -- this season plus two more. If it comes to that, it will be a mighty bitter pill.

 

[Stormin]

we agree with the no bowl...and I'll probably get flamed for this...but I can honestly see us not winning a game this year based on what I saw. I don't want it to be true. We're not a good team at all.

We looked bad. At the same time, while being a FCS Division team, NDSU is rated #2 and is a favorite to repeat as FCS Champions. We should beat an FCS team. But they were not Western Illinois. And Any Given Saturday we can win. As young as we are I expect improvement. There will be changes made on the field if we lose. Guarantee it.

 

[cycloneworld]

we agree with the no bowl...and I'll probably get flamed for this...but I can honestly see us not winning a game this year based on what I saw. I don't want it to be true. We're not a good team at all.

If we play like we did the last 3 quarters of the game, we won't win a game this year. But I'm confident the coaches will correct a lot and the players will improve a lot and we'll win several games this year. I don't think it will be 6 but I don't think we will go winless either.

 

[Gossamer]

I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

 

[CycloneErik]

we agree with the no bowl...and I'll probably get flamed for this...but I can honestly see us not winning a game this year based on what I saw. I don't want it to be true. We're not a good team at all.

It's incredibly hard to run the table without managing to win a single game, but the team we saw on Saturday has a shot.

 

[Dandy]

CPR won't be fired. He either starts winning which is probably what will happen, or he accepts a job somewhere else.

If Rhoads goes 3-9 again this year, his chances of getting another job are will be slim-to-none.

 

[CycoCyclone]

If we play like we did the last 3 quarters of the game, we won't win a game this year. But I'm confident the coaches will correct a lot and the players will improve a lot and we'll win several games this year. I don't think it will be 6 but I don't think we will go winless either.

Sincere question, what about game 1 makes you think the coaches make adjustments week 2, 3, etc?

What I saw Saturday made me think coaching is the problem.

 

[RustShack]

If Rhoads goes 3-9 again this year, his chances of getting another job are will be slim-to-none.

Hes safe this year. He has a young inexperienced roster with a lot of new coaches. Next year is his make or break.

 

[FreeBorn]

If Rhoads goes 3-9 again this year, his chances of getting another job are will be slim-to-none.

I like Rhoads a lot, but he's proven he's not a big time college head coach. I bet he goes back to being a DC. He's good at that. I feel good for him that he's making more money than 99% of the people in America ever will.