Rhoads seems to barely be able to credit Lanning...

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I will first state that that I am ready for a change with Rhoads but that aside, I don't really understand what else you want Rhoads to do or say. The guy gave praise to Lanning but also admitted that the rest of the offense did there part as well. Some of you guys need to get a grip. As much as I think Lanning needs/should start against Texas, you all make it sound like he is the only one that played well. Some of u think way to much into things and try spinning things to believe what u want. If Rhoads didn't mention anything about Lanning playing a good game or made comments like he did the last game, then there would be reason to complain.
 

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I think the point is that the QB change meant an attitude change for the entire team. As much as Sam knows the offense and has more experience, he has also shown a tendency to be a mental midget. And at Iowa State, you just can't have that at QB. You need a tough guy who can whether the storm. That is not Sam Richardson. I just can't believe it took the coaching staff so long to recognize it. Does anyone remember him playing well when the going got tough? Maybe once or twice in 4 seasons. I am looking forward to the Texas game where there is someone different under center!
 

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Can somebody clear this up for me. If Lanning makes a bad play the rest of the year, am I supposed to call for Rohach, Richardson, or pulling the redshirt off De Lira?

Trick question, the answer is Tiller
 

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It's funny, after that first Lanning TD drive of ALL running plays, I texted my buddy "Lanning for Heisman!!".

I thought he did play well & made some good throws. Had some bad ones, though, too (like his first attempt that went backwards into the ground for a loss of 8). I think part of the success might have been due to going heavy run, & limiting the playbook. If he can get more comfortable with more plays, I think he can be really successful.

That said, I hate hate hate that we aren't more aggressive on offense. We were playing the top offense in all of college football, but we still started the game super conservative with play calling. Very few shots downfield.
 

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Can somebody clear this up for me. If Lanning makes a bad play the rest of the year, am I supposed to call for Rohach, Richardson, or pulling the redshirt off De Lira?

Trick question, the answer is Tiller

We have seen 4 years of poor play by Richardson basically, not just a few bad plays, so not a good analogy at all.

Richardson has had WAY more than a fair chance to prove himself here, and it just hasn't clicked for whatever reason. Time to move on to the future now. I respect Sam for everything he's given this university. He's been a very classy individual and has been a great role model both on and off the field. He will be successful in life. But not everyone is NFL material at the QB position, and Sam isn't. But he's given a lot of blood, sweat, and tears to this school and he and his parents can be proud of what he's done here, no matter what everyone on here says about him.

But no matter what, Sam will not be around next year, so it's time to see what the future looks like IMO. We are not going to achieve the team goal of going to a bowl game. So if this coaching staff really cares about the future of this football program they have to throw Lanning out there and see what he can do and whether he can be the starter next year or if we have to go a different route.
 

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We have seen 4 years of poor play by Richardson basically, not just a few bad plays, so not a good analogy at all.

Richardson has had WAY more than a fair chance to prove himself here, and it just hasn't clicked for whatever reason. Time to move on to the future now. I respect Sam for everything he's given this university. He's been a very classy individual and has been a great role model both on and off the field. He will be successful in life. But not everyone is NFL material at the QB position, and Sam isn't. But he's given a lot of blood, sweat, and tears to this school and he and his parents can be proud of what he's done here, no matter what everyone on here says about him.

But no matter what, Sam will not be around next year, so it's time to see what the future looks like IMO. We are not going to achieve the team goal of going to a bowl game. So if this coaching staff really cares about the future of this football program they have to throw Lanning out there and see what he can do and whether he can be the starter next year or if we have to go a different route.


EXACTLY!

Well stated - way to knock down the "one bad play" strawman. Like we haven't been watching an annual parade of subpar quarterbacking over the last several years.
 

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EXACTLY!

Well stated - way to knock down the "one bad play" strawman. Like we haven't been watching an annual parade of subpar quarterbacking over the last several years.

Thanks.

If we were going with the "one bad play" scenario, then we would have been calling for Sam's head on his first bad play against UNI this year. That wasn't the case.

We're now over halfway through the season. That is more than enough time to prove yourself as the starter.
 

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We have seen 4 years of poor play by Richardson basically, not just a few bad plays, so not a good analogy at all.

Richardson has had WAY more than a fair chance to prove himself here, and it just hasn't clicked for whatever reason. Time to move on to the future now. I respect Sam for everything he's given this university. He's been a very classy individual and has been a great role model both on and off the field. He will be successful in life. But not everyone is NFL material at the QB position, and Sam isn't. But he's given a lot of blood, sweat, and tears to this school and he and his parents can be proud of what he's done here, no matter what everyone on here says about him.

But no matter what, Sam will not be around next year, so it's time to see what the future looks like IMO. We are not going to achieve the team goal of going to a bowl game. So if this coaching staff really cares about the future of this football program they have to throw Lanning out there and see what he can do and whether he can be the starter next year or if we have to go a different route.

When he was at Ankeny they were heavy run and I kind of expect it to remain heavy run at Iowa State if our o-line can run block at all. He doesn't throw a bad ball and has been pretty accurate, I've just never pictured him as a guy who can throw 60 times a game.
 

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CPR has completely lost it IMO. Something is going on and it's not some message board conspiracy either. here is what CPR said:

Reporter--Do you feel like Lanning came in and gave your offense a spark in this game?

CPR- Well(sounding hesitant honestly) I..I..you can credit a player but he wasn't blocking for guys, he wasn't catching the ball for guys, he wasn't running football but he peformed very well...that drive was imortant for us from an energy level and our whole team responded...with that "Drive" our whole team picked up momentum and with that "Drive"... Blah blah blah...I emphasis "Drive" because it seemed like CPR was just not going to credit Lanning specifically for anything other than to say he played well.

Something isn't right here folks. Either CPR is trying to coral JL so he stays focused or there is some serious internal problems going on right now.

Given it was Lanning first real amount of time and considering how he played almost any coach, given what the previous QB performance had been like, would be a lot more positive and praising of JL performance. I get that we lost and it's not like JL single handily won the game for ISU but the way in which he redirected what should have been many compliments into pointing out what JL wasn't doing is completely baffling and honestly kinda scary.
 

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CPR has completely lost it IMO. Something is going on and it's not some message board conspiracy either. here is what CPR said:

Reporter--Do you feel like Lanning came in and gave your offense a spark in this game?

CPR- Well(sounding hesitant honestly) I..I..you can credit a player but he wasn't blocking for guys, he wasn't catching the ball for guys, he wasn't running football but he peformed very well...that drive was imortant for us from an energy level and our whole team responded...with that "Drive" our whole team picked up momentum and with that "Drive"... Blah blah blah...I emphasis "Drive" because it seemed like CPR was just not going to credit Lanning specifically for anything other than to say he played well.

Something isn't right here folks. Either CPR is trying to coral JL so he stays focused or there is some serious internal problems going on right now.

Given it was Lanning first real amount of time and considering how he played almost any coach, given what the previous QB performance had been like, would be a lot more positive and praising of JL performance. I get that we lost and it's not like JL single handily won the game for ISU but the way in which he redirected what should have been many compliments into pointing out what JL wasn't doing is completely baffling and honestly kinda scary.
From the outside it looks like a black & white issue. Internally I bet it's scary. You have to question your own reality. Is this a case did a young QB came in and give the team a spark or is this a case where the production was due to the defense was being unprepared for the backup. Rhoads seen it happen before with SR's debut against KU.
 

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CPR has completely lost it IMO. Something is going on and it's not some message board conspiracy either. here is what CPR said:

Reporter--Do you feel like Lanning came in and gave your offense a spark in this game?

CPR- Well(sounding hesitant honestly) I..I..you can credit a player but he wasn't blocking for guys, he wasn't catching the ball for guys, he wasn't running football but he peformed very well...that drive was imortant for us from an energy level and our whole team responded...with that "Drive" our whole team picked up momentum and with that "Drive"... Blah blah blah...I emphasis "Drive" because it seemed like CPR was just not going to credit Lanning specifically for anything other than to say he played well.

Something isn't right here folks. Either CPR is trying to coral JL so he stays focused or there is some serious internal problems going on right now.

Given it was Lanning first real amount of time and considering how he played almost any coach, given what the previous QB performance had been like, would be a lot more positive and praising of JL performance. I get that we lost and it's not like JL single handily won the game for ISU but the way in which he redirected what should have been many compliments into pointing out what JL wasn't doing is completely baffling and honestly kinda scary.

The training has begun for another QB....
 

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CPR has completely lost it IMO. Something is going on and it's not some message board conspiracy either. here is what CPR said:

Reporter--Do you feel like Lanning came in and gave your offense a spark in this game?

CPR- Well(sounding hesitant honestly) I..I..you can credit a player but he wasn't blocking for guys, he wasn't catching the ball for guys, he wasn't running football but he peformed very well...that drive was imortant for us from an energy level and our whole team responded...with that "Drive" our whole team picked up momentum and with that "Drive"... Blah blah blah...I emphasis "Drive" because it seemed like CPR was just not going to credit Lanning specifically for anything other than to say he played well.

Something isn't right here folks. Either CPR is trying to coral JL so he stays focused or there is some serious internal problems going on right now.

Given it was Lanning first real amount of time and considering how he played almost any coach, given what the previous QB performance had been like, would be a lot more positive and praising of JL performance. I get that we lost and it's not like JL single handily won the game for ISU but the way in which he redirected what should have been many compliments into pointing out what JL wasn't doing is completely baffling and honestly kinda scary.

Good post - you get it. This is spot on and obvious to anybody paying attention and not looking at the comments in a vacuum.
 

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From the outside it looks like a black & white issue. Internally I bet it's scary. You have to question your own reality. Is this a case did a young QB came in and give the team a spark or is this a case where the production was due to the defense was being unprepared for the backup. Rhoads seen it happen before with SR's debut against KU.

Scary?? What is scary about it? SR has clearly not performed well or consistently over the last few years. 7 wins in the last 2.5 years - don't give me the stats garbage either - we need SCORING. We need a QB that knows how to get in the endzone. What could possibly be scary about giving Lanning an honest chance after the TD pass in the TCU game unless you mean scary for the staff that is going to look foolish for not trying anything to spark the offense! I mean come on - 7 wins in 2.5 years with SR at QB. What the hell do you have to lose?
 
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Anyone think Sam is CPR's guy and Lanning is now CM's guy? One has to wonder about the relationship between those two and CPR wants the final say whether he's right or wrong. Just a thought.
 

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CPR has completely lost it IMO. Something is going on and it's not some message board conspiracy either. here is what CPR said:

Reporter--Do you feel like Lanning came in and gave your offense a spark in this game?

CPR- Well(sounding hesitant honestly) I..I..you can credit a player but he wasn't blocking for guys, he wasn't catching the ball for guys, he wasn't running football but he peformed very well...that drive was imortant for us from an energy level and our whole team responded...with that "Drive" our whole team picked up momentum and with that "Drive"... Blah blah blah...I emphasis "Drive" because it seemed like CPR was just not going to credit Lanning specifically for anything other than to say he played well.

Something isn't right here folks. Either CPR is trying to coral JL so he stays focused or there is some serious internal problems going on right now.

Given it was Lanning first real amount of time and considering how he played almost any coach, given what the previous QB performance had been like, would be a lot more positive and praising of JL performance. I get that we lost and it's not like JL single handily won the game for ISU but the way in which he redirected what should have been many compliments into pointing out what JL wasn't doing is completely baffling and honestly kinda scary.

Play Lanning and Rhoads can internally shove it up his ***. :jimlad:
 

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It's funny, after that first Lanning TD drive of ALL running plays, I texted my buddy "Lanning for Heisman!!".

I thought he did play well & made some good throws. Had some bad ones, though, too (like his first attempt that went backwards into the ground for a loss of 8). I think part of the success might have been due to going heavy run, & limiting the playbook. If he can get more comfortable with more plays, I think he can be really successful.

That said, I hate hate hate that we aren't more aggressive on offense. We were playing the top offense in all of college football, but we still started the game super conservative with play calling. Very few shots downfield.

Hint. Sam was the qb at the start.