There are also a hell of a lot of them who are not happy with the decision but understand why it was made and aren't blaming the administration. Put me and my brother down in that camp.
RIP, Veishea
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There are also a hell of a lot of them who are not happy with the decision but understand why it was made and aren't blaming the administration. Put me and my brother down in that camp.
That's me in the speedo next to the "Brrr" guys and Captain America. Front row, in a speedo, painted body in 30 degree weather. You bet your *** I was on that field right away. Hate all you want though.
You must be a devil with the ladies...
VEISHEA did end with a bang. It ended with the bang of a light post hitting someone's skulll while hundreds chanted it's name.
Like I said, it's still a large number and Iowa state will feel the sting where it hurts.
Kids will be kids. The energy, creativeness and sometimes self-destruction of youth should be embraced. Leath is acting like a high school principal nearing retirement. No imagination.
Yeah, but honestly, "I'm going to stop giving" is probably the most hollow threat ever.
First, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of people that rattle that saber don't give anyway.
Second, there's also a large number of people who only give for seats. They won't stop or reduce if it means they have to give up their preferred seats...heck we're already at the point where people aren't getting seats/parking in their range because of the number giving more.
Third, The university has made controversial rulings before, and "I'm done giving" is always trotted out. I've never heard the university come back later, hat in hand, saying "we're sorry, we're dying from this backlash, we reverse ourselves."
It's comments like this that makes me wish there was a 'thumbs down' button.
Isn't that where you always feel the sting? Where it hurts? I'd be more concerned if you're feeling stings where they don't hurt, or not feeling stings where they should be hurting.
I sincerely doubt this will be even a blip on the foundation's fundraising.
I'm pretty confident that the vast majority of those who donate to the university (not athletics) are more apt to increase their donation rather than decrease it based on this decision. Most have come to a grudging realization that something had to be done because Veishea was being irreparably harmed by the irresponsible.
Again, I hate, hate, hate to see it go. For the record, I was in school during the first of the Veishea riots and I am embarrassed to admit that it started on my watch.
(See the difference? I wasn't even present at the riots and I feel responsible.)
No, it won't. You think a few alumni pulling their "hundreds" of dollars in donations is going to have any affect on an institution with a $650 million+ operating budget and $700 million+ in foundation assets? You are obviously not a financial expert.
No one is pretending that the rioting is not associated with VEISHEA. It is dumb, in my opinion, to think that the rioting has not grown to something bigger than VEISHEA itself. Taking away the good events will not stop the periodic rioting when a mob historically gathers.
I can't imagine the kind of liability suit the university would face if another student were murdered as a result of "a university-sanctioned event with a history of getting out of hand due to the large number of drunken idiots participating in said event" once again got out of hand. It would not stun me to hear that the university's lawyers advised the committee to dump this thing before something really bad happened and it cost the university as a result.
I get that the history of the event is "important" - the parade, the pies, the display of farming implements, etc. But I honestly believe this "importance" is being greatly overplayed. Why? Because I was a student during the "Dry VEISHEA" era (1997-2003). When the focus of the event was returned to what was "important", all anybody ever did was complain about how VEISHEA sucked because drinking was banned and, in fact, should be cancelled. And by the way, people just went to off-campus parties and got loaded anyway. So what this tells me is that the "importance" of VEISHEA isn't the parade, the pies, the farm implements, or the university showcase, the "importance" of VEISHEA is the the University-sanctioned excuse to abuse alcohol and act like drunken asshats on campus.
It has been a long time since VEISHEA has been about it's original intentions, it's now about the right to act like a drunken idiot. The university over the last 20 years has tried different ways to "fix" VEISHEA - making it "dry", cancelling it on several occasions, bringing in better entertainment. IT. HAS. NOT. WORKED. It's time to put this event to bed before something really tragic happens - again.
I get that the history of the event is "important" - the parade, the pies, the display of farming implements, etc. But I honestly believe this "importance" is being greatly overplayed. Why? Because I was a student during the "Dry VEISHEA" era (1997-2003). When the focus of the event was returned to what was "important", all anybody ever did was complain about how VEISHEA sucked because drinking was banned and, in fact, should be cancelled. And by the way, people just went to off-campus parties and got loaded anyway. So what this tells me is that the "importance" of VEISHEA isn't the parade, the pies, the farm implements, or the university showcase, the "importance" of VEISHEA is the the University-sanctioned excuse to abuse alcohol and act like drunken asshats on campus.
It has been a long time since VEISHEA has been about it's original intentions, it's now about the right to act like a drunken idiot. The university over the last 20 years has tried different ways to "fix" VEISHEA - making it "dry", cancelling it on several occasions, bringing in better entertainment. IT. HAS. NOT. WORKED. It's time to put this event to bed before something really tragic happens - again.
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It really hurts the local businesses, especially the bars. I don't know how true this is, but I've heard rumors that bars make up the revenue they lose with the students being gone over the summer with this week alone pretty much.
I could see that being true, because there is usually pretty high covers at the bars during VEISHEA, whereas there usually is no cover the rest of the year.
Was that your response to what happened in 1997 as well? That murder is "kids being kids"?
