Rocco's NIL value

Cychl82

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Its really starting to be mind blowing, especially if you look at the money that Evan Stewart and that DT from A&M are going to make in the 4-5 years. Took all the money from the Aggies to go there only to probably be more in demand for dollars on the transfer portal market and get paid again.
 

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Just make college athletes employees. Give each school a $5 million per year salary cap (in addition to a free education).

Have the athletes sign a 4 year contract at their signing day. Players could still be allowed to transfer during their contract, but would obviously give that contract up plus face a penalty fine of some sort.

If a school wants to give an Arch Manning $5 million a year, so be it, but that would put a huge dent in their salary cap of $5 million a year. And this $5 million is for all sports too. So if Iowa has to pay something to keep CC from leaving, that counts against the $5 million too.

Any athlete that is only getting a free education and nothing else is not required to sign any kind of contract at all.

I'm sure everyone will poke all kinds of holes in this idea because I haven't really thought it through very much. I'm sure I'm missing all kinds of things.
 
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Just make college athletes employees. Give each school a $5 million per year salary cap (in addition to a free education).

Have the athletes sign a 4 year contract at their signing day. Players could still be allowed to transfer during their contract, but would obviously give that contract up plus face a penalty fine of some sort.

If a school wants to give an Arch Manning $5 million a year, so be it, but that would put a huge dent in their salary cap of $5 million a year. And this $5 million is for all sports too. So if Iowa has to pay something to keep CC from leaving, that counts against the $5 million too.

Any athlete that is only getting a free education and nothing else is not required to sign any kind of contract at all.

I'm sure everyone will poke all kinds of holes in this idea because I haven't really thought it through very much. I'm sure I'm missing all kinds of things.

That still wouldn't prevent athletes being able to source their own deals for NIL (like Caleb Williams in the Dr. Pepper commercial). The collectives could still funnel money through NIL engagements like they currently do. Making athletes employees, I don't think, would solve the current problem.
 
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That still wouldn't prevent athletes being able to source their own deals for NIL (like Caleb Williams in the Dr. Pepper commercial). The collectives could still funnel money through NIL engagements like they currently do. Making athletes employees, I don't think, would solve the current problem.

I'm saying this replaces NIL. NIL hasn't always been legal... make it illegal again, and make them employees.
 
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I don't believe this NIL and transfer portal are working as intended.
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Seriously, if true, this (NIL/transfer portal as it is "working" now) has to be the most ****** up thing I've ever witnessed.
 

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I don't drink enough Ames Lager to support a million dollar QB. Good thing the rest of you have deep pockets.
 
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I'm saying this replaces NIL. NIL hasn't always been legal... make it illegal again, and make them employees.

But that was the issue when the Supreme Court wrote a strongly worded brief (I believe) that put the NCAA on notice that preventing athletes from not earning money wasn't going to fly.

NIL was never illegal from a state or federal standpoint. NIL was banned by the NCAA; if you wanted to play college ball, you had to abide by their rules, which meant athletes couldn't earn money due to their name, image, or likeness through their sport. Supreme Court said that's not going to fly if we get a case in front of us that challenges the NCAA. So, the NCAA just opened up the flood gates.

The problem is that the NCAA is made up of its member institutions, like a trade organization, to handle college sports. If those member institutions don't like what's going on, then they can tell the NCAA to make changes to how they run and enforce things. Problem is that there are so many institutions, that they all don't agree on how to do that. The top athletic schools actually like what is going on because they benefit from this. This problem also gets worse that the NCAA doesn't really have any teeth to it, like a federal or state agency does to force private individuals to comply, like collectives.
 
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If a kid earns $250k every year for 4 years in college... and invest it... it would be worth around $10 million or more when they are 62. And many are making more than that.
True, but we also know that most of these kids are not investing that money, they are living large. Get the new vehicle, dress for success, show the cash to impress the ladies and the rest of it.
Wait until the tax man comes for his cut and we are going to see a lot of unhappy players.
 
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I’ll jump in here to simply say thank you to everyone who contributes to We Will. The reality is crazy but true. And we are holding on by a string. And like it or not, getting a post player in basketball will be a similar situation so everything helps. And Iowa State will need 2-3 post players this off-season. We currently have less than 1,000 folks who donate monthly. Would love to double that this year. Even $10 a month is huge.
 

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I’m glad more people are starting to believe what we’ve been saying for 2 years now as to the offers kids are getting. And this info, like many others, can come from people involved, the kid themselves, screenshots, etc. it’s been the price and will continue to be.

Now, what ISU did with Tampa is the same they did for Omaha and others. Promise more playing time, development, culture, etc and hope it offsets things enough. Omaha and Tampa are good examples of guys we’re able to offer 5 digits for when others can offer 7 and we’re still in the running for the above reasons.

But that can only go so far and doesn’t work for many athletes. That’s why the collective needs the support of the entire community.
 
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This is an honest question—-can I give cash or gift cards directly to a player or is We Will and the marketplace sites that schools have just a means of “tracking” money going to athletes thus it goes through them?
 

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Isn't that supposedly "illegal"? I thought that amounted to tampering when players are approached outside the portal and with an actual dollar amount?
This is one of the problems with NIL as it currently stands. The collectives have to be separate from the athletic departments and the way I understand it the athletic departments and the schools are what the NCAA prohibits from tampering with an athlete so Blum could go and offer to other school's athletes because he is not affiliated with the AD or the school.

I sure hope Blum isn't though.
 

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I'm saying this replaces NIL. NIL hasn't always been legal... make it illegal again, and make them employees.
That's very unlikely to occur. A little over half of the states have laws on the books that prevent schools from punishing athletes who profit from their NIL rights.
If the NCAA decided to reverse course, they'd have pending lawsuits in 29 different states, almost instantaneously.
Federal legislation is the NCAA's "hope and prayer" option. There are several proposals out there, but nothing is really pending, and the proposals are all over the board when it comes to the "fix". For example, one of them would require that a student be enrolled for 90 days before they could receive any NIL deals, which sounds great, but in reality would likely just drive dealings back under the table.