Royce white says he doesn't know about NBA
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I don't know what he'll do, but I can guarantee you this... he will get the very best advice possible from Fred Hoiberg. Hoiberg will advise him to do what will be best for Royce's future. So if that's leaving now, so be it, and if not, then great for us ISU fans.
I really think we could be a final four type team next season, although we're going to have to find some scoring from the outside with Scotty and Chris gone. Babb looks completely lost on the offensive end and his shot has been off for quite a long time now.
By the way.... when does Royce have to make a decision? It would be nice if he decided soon so that Fred can really pursue Pelle. He would be a great addition if Royce leaves.
I really think we could be a final four type team next season, although we're going to have to find some scoring from the outside with Scotty and Chris gone. Babb looks completely lost on the offensive end and his shot has been off for quite a long time now.
By the way.... when does Royce have to make a decision? It would be nice if he decided soon so that Fred can really pursue Pelle. He would be a great addition if Royce leaves.
He has to declare by April 10th.
http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/mens-basketball/144665-nba-deadline-declare-apr-29-a.html
I would tell Royce this though if I ever saw him.... my college years were still, by FAR, the best years of my entire life.
So if you don't need the money right now, I'd stay. You will not have as much fun in the NBA as you are having now. It is nothing but a job once you go pro. The college years just cannot be replaced. It is a lot more like a family. In the pros, you never want to get too close to anyone on your team because they could be gone any day.
I think if you talked with almost any pro that left college early, they'd tell you that they miss their college years now. So that's just something to consider. Once you leave, you can't go back and get these college years back again.
As I said, college was the best time of my life. Working for a living sucks. If you can put off the pros for one more year, I think you'll have a wonderful time and a great ride next year!
So if you don't need the money right now, I'd stay. You will not have as much fun in the NBA as you are having now. It is nothing but a job once you go pro. The college years just cannot be replaced. It is a lot more like a family. In the pros, you never want to get too close to anyone on your team because they could be gone any day.
I think if you talked with almost any pro that left college early, they'd tell you that they miss their college years now. So that's just something to consider. Once you leave, you can't go back and get these college years back again.
As I said, college was the best time of my life. Working for a living sucks. If you can put off the pros for one more year, I think you'll have a wonderful time and a great ride next year!
Fizer and Brackins stayed until their Junior years so I believe Royce will be here until he is a junior as well...
Fizer and Brackins both had the 15 ft jumper capabilities but White does not...
Fizer and Brackins both had the 15 ft jumper capabilities but White does not...
Royce has been wonderful. He has a young family and he needs to go pro. You never know what happens if you come back. Thanks for all you have done Royce. We love you and wish you the best.
I don't care what he does, I'm thankful for what we got. He has a family and a young daughter to think about. He's been nothing but class. I've seen him a few times and he has always gone out of his way to talk with people. Whether or not he goes pro this year will have no affect on his Legend to me. Sure he could be a BEAST and perhaps national player of the year next year, but he has to do what he wants and not what he want for him. Thanks Royce!!!
If he starts getting projected as a 1st rounder, I think he'll leave. He has a kid, and playing for nothing in college has got to be tough.
Personally I think if he stays and works on a turn around 15 footer, adds a couple post moves, he could be a top 10 in next years draft. There were quite a few guys that stayed in college an extra year b/c of the NBA lockout. This years draft will be deeper than usual pushing him to a bottom first rounder at best.
Personally I think if he stays and works on a turn around 15 footer, adds a couple post moves, he could be a top 10 in next years draft. There were quite a few guys that stayed in college an extra year b/c of the NBA lockout. This years draft will be deeper than usual pushing him to a bottom first rounder at best.
He definately has some things he needs to work on, but it might not be enough to keep him here another year? As an NBA scout, his shooting would concern me, and the way he gets out of control and turns it over too. Royce leaves his feet a lot and sometimes has no idea what he's going to do when he does. He tries to make too good of passes at times and carelessly turns it over.
So yes, there are aspects of his game that need work and that might be concerning to some NBA GM's, but there are other aspects that leave you drooling too. So it's a tough call.
I agree with everyone who mentioned his family. I would love for him to come back and to work on his jumper, D, and FTs, but basketball is so uncertain and fickle. What if he gets hurt next year? What if we somehow have a bad season and his stock plummets? This is the welfare of his family at stake, which is more important than how we do next season. I hope whatever decision he makes works out great for them, and that he knows he gave us hope, not let us down.
That was the old NBA CBA that allowed that.
IIRC, the new CBA does not allow that. You either declare or don't; you can not declare, go to the camps (Portsmouth, etc) and choose to back out.
Now Fred can certainly talk to anyone he wants to in order to give Royce the best info (and has already said that will be done).
EDIT: Now I'm not so sure. NBA.com has a list of important dates, including a date for early entry withdrawal, after the Portsmouth camp. I though I remembered hearing something at one time about no withdrawals.
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Let me fix this for you:
He needs to go pro IF HES GUARANTEED MONEY. Let's figure this out. There's what, 30 NBA teams with 15 roster spots each. In other words, ~450 roster spots. Now, how many of those are filled with guys who will be coming back next year? Most. Room for rookies? Yes, the top ones drafted in the first round.
Sorry, but just because you have a young family and he needs to go pro, doesn't mean he should do it right now. In my opinion, most scouts like Royce, but at this point what he'll be doing wouldn't be guaranteed money.
As much of a dilemma this is, if Royce really wants the life of being a millionaire at this point, he should come back another year, gain more experience, dominate basketball even more and develop a jump shot. If he does these things, he will be a first round pick next year with *guaranteed money*.
Just because you get drafted in say the 2nd round of the NBA, doesn't mean you're going to make it. Ask Will Blalock about it.
It would be hard to pass up guaranteed millions with a young family for Royce. Therefore I will donate half my paychecks to support them so he can stay another year.
To think back about all the hype related to risks associated with White... yet he turned out to be a leaders, good citizen (great), and was more mature than any player I remember in recent history.
I think being in Ames allowed White to find himself, with the year off helping to learn who he wanted to be. Ames is a great place, that story needs to get out.
I want White back for the selfish reason of being good and having something fun to watch. I honestly think he would benefit from another year in Ames... both from a BB skills standpoint and to keep things going a little slower so he doesn't end of going the other direction where the MBA will spit him out if he struggles or regresses. If he leaves, I wish him the best and glad to know that Ames was a positive in his life like many other grads here have experienced.
What a kid, he's a special one. I think ISU will be happy either way. It's just nice to see one of our own, a great person, turn around his life and now be in a situation for success. Either way, it's great!
I think being in Ames allowed White to find himself, with the year off helping to learn who he wanted to be. Ames is a great place, that story needs to get out.
I want White back for the selfish reason of being good and having something fun to watch. I honestly think he would benefit from another year in Ames... both from a BB skills standpoint and to keep things going a little slower so he doesn't end of going the other direction where the MBA will spit him out if he struggles or regresses. If he leaves, I wish him the best and glad to know that Ames was a positive in his life like many other grads here have experienced.
What a kid, he's a special one. I think ISU will be happy either way. It's just nice to see one of our own, a great person, turn around his life and now be in a situation for success. Either way, it's great!
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Totally agreed. As much as I give Ames **** for being boring outside of a few bars, it is a good place that can make you grow. When I came to Ames, I was a totally different person and believe it changed me for the better. I am forever thankful for it.
It's actually a very good point you bring up. There are a lot of players coming out of HS who need to mature or just find out who they really are away from the BS they grew up in. If our programs keeps getting bigger and bigger, I could see it being a small selling point to a few recruits.
THIS. i think it will be a selling point to players as well as PARENTS of players who may be from a bad neighborhood or had a rough early life. Every parent wants to hear that their child will be safe where ever they go to school and Ames is a wonderful town.
I agree. I also think we're measuring success solely on money. If Royce leaves Ames and gets guaranteed money but fails to keep his daily life in order... the money won't matter. His decision needs to be more than just about money... but about what he wants in his life over the next 60 years. Who he wants to be and how he wants to get there. The NBA will only care about BB and that's ok if Royce is able to take care of the rest. He just needs to make sure he's ready and has fully leveraged the college / Ames / Fred part of his life before moving on to put him in the best position for a good life.
I have no clue what he will do.
Personally, I think he should stay for a couple of reasons. First, next year's team will be very different from this year's team, and his role is likely going to change a bit. I think the addition of an experienced true point guard, and an experienced true small forward will help greatly in Royce developing his game even more. If Lucious and Clyburn are as good as we think, then I believe Royce will be a front-runner for national POY next year.
Secondly, there is no doubt that Royce's NBA stock has gone up from the two NCAA games, and probably would have gone up much more had ISU gotten a better seed and a little better match-ups. I just don't know if it moved him into the first round. As far as I know (and I could be wrong) the 2nd round draft choices still do not get any guaranteed money or contract. If Royce sticks around, there is no doubt in my mind that after next year he would be a first round pick, and very possibly a lottery pick. Like others, I think he also needs to work on some aspects of his game, mainly his outside shooting, but I am not so sure that keeps him out of the NBA.
I look at some other ISU players that went to the NBA, and I think the closest player to Royce was Fizer, as far as position, skill set etc. Fizer scored most of his points around the basket, but also had the ability to score from the 12 to 18 foot range. By his junior year, he was a bigger part of the scoring offense for ISU than Royce was in his first year. Fizer even shot 35 per cent from 3 point range his last year, although he only took about 40 shots from that distance. He was not quite as good of a re-bounder as Royce (especially in the NBA), but he was drafted mainly because of his offensive skills. These are what Royce I think still needs to develop more in order to be a high draft pick. That is where the true money and security is. With the players that are coming in and eligible next year, I think he can develop and showcase the skills to be a lottery pick.
I also think that this is an ideal situation for Royce. He has a head coach who is a former NBA player and executive, and who I think will be able to get as good and more realistic feel for Royce's draft potential than any other college coach in the country. Wisely, Royce seems to have kind of left next year in FH's hands. I think Fred will find out what he can for him. I don't think Fred will try and "push" Royce on to anyone, and I think he will give Royce an honest opinion and good advice.
Personally, I think he should stay for a couple of reasons. First, next year's team will be very different from this year's team, and his role is likely going to change a bit. I think the addition of an experienced true point guard, and an experienced true small forward will help greatly in Royce developing his game even more. If Lucious and Clyburn are as good as we think, then I believe Royce will be a front-runner for national POY next year.
Secondly, there is no doubt that Royce's NBA stock has gone up from the two NCAA games, and probably would have gone up much more had ISU gotten a better seed and a little better match-ups. I just don't know if it moved him into the first round. As far as I know (and I could be wrong) the 2nd round draft choices still do not get any guaranteed money or contract. If Royce sticks around, there is no doubt in my mind that after next year he would be a first round pick, and very possibly a lottery pick. Like others, I think he also needs to work on some aspects of his game, mainly his outside shooting, but I am not so sure that keeps him out of the NBA.
I look at some other ISU players that went to the NBA, and I think the closest player to Royce was Fizer, as far as position, skill set etc. Fizer scored most of his points around the basket, but also had the ability to score from the 12 to 18 foot range. By his junior year, he was a bigger part of the scoring offense for ISU than Royce was in his first year. Fizer even shot 35 per cent from 3 point range his last year, although he only took about 40 shots from that distance. He was not quite as good of a re-bounder as Royce (especially in the NBA), but he was drafted mainly because of his offensive skills. These are what Royce I think still needs to develop more in order to be a high draft pick. That is where the true money and security is. With the players that are coming in and eligible next year, I think he can develop and showcase the skills to be a lottery pick.
I also think that this is an ideal situation for Royce. He has a head coach who is a former NBA player and executive, and who I think will be able to get as good and more realistic feel for Royce's draft potential than any other college coach in the country. Wisely, Royce seems to have kind of left next year in FH's hands. I think Fred will find out what he can for him. I don't think Fred will try and "push" Royce on to anyone, and I think he will give Royce an honest opinion and good advice.
