Sad thing about the portal & NIL

[CyCrazy]

John Daly's Son, a Freshman Golfer at Arkansas, Signs NIL Deal With Hooters

John Daly II is following in his father's footsteps. The son of two-time golf major champion John Daly is a freshman at Arkansas, the same school his father att

www.thebiglead.com

How do you think this kid will do in college with this deal? Given his family lineage, I bet not well. This just fuels his demise. Why should he have gotten NIL money over some other more worthy kid?

You are off your rocker. Just put "Kids" in bubble wrap their whole life or what?

 

[clone52]

Giving kids money like this in college will lead to a lot more kids who had professional capabilities flaming out in college. They will now have all this money and no one to guide them. No sports agent will be around to give them advice. They will get lazy and waste their opportunities. It will also attract low life people hanging around them bleeding them dry for wine, women and song. This is impending disaster. Many of these kids will end up with no money and no college degree. That's a shame!

With all due respect, this is a dumb take.

 

[BBB83]

The intent of college sports should always be to leave with a college degree. NIL really clouds that picture. I'm not against giving college athlete's a small monthly stipend with that dollar number being equal across all academic institutions that choose to participate. Many athlete's could use it. It's these big money deals that will ruin college athletics as we've known it.

 

[Lineup]

Love It he is going to be better that John

 

[CycloneDaddy]

John Daly's Son, a Freshman Golfer at Arkansas, Signs NIL Deal With Hooters

John Daly II is following in his father's footsteps. The son of two-time golf major champion John Daly is a freshman at Arkansas, the same school his father att

www.thebiglead.com

How do you think this kid will do in college with this deal? Given his family lineage, I bet not well. This just fuels his demise. Why should he have gotten NIL money over some other more worthy kid?

Hercy Miller, Master P's Son, Signs $2 Million Deal After NIL Law Change | Sports Illustrated

What you think about Hercy Millers NIL deal?

 

[BCClone]

The intent of college sports should always be to leave with a college degree. NIL really clouds that picture. I'm not against giving college athlete's a small monthly stipend with that dollar number being equal across all academic institutions that choose to participate. Many athlete's could use it. It's these big money deals that will ruin college athletics as we've known it.

Most will be this way. The majority of the ones with NIL large deals are there as athletes first and students about 5th on the list.

 

[Acylum]

Lol at the posters thinking the “sports agents” are a good source of guidance.

 

[cygrads]

That's exactly my point. These aren't children. If they **** it up, and blow all of their NIL money, well... that sucks. Nobody to blame but themselves.

Maybe this is where the NIL department comes in and provides advice and maybe classes on how to handle the money. At least then as a school you're doing something to help.

 

[Mr Janny]

A really good rule would be:
no NIL for 12 months after transferring; because there is obvious tampering going on. If they want playing time on another team , OK, I get that.

That cannot happen without multiple states changing their laws, or having their laws overruled. The NIL laws on the books make no distinction for banning payments for a certain time period after transfer. They simply say that the student can't be punished for profiting from their name image and likeness. Schools that tried to implement a rule like this would be inviting a lawsuit that they're not likely to win.

Now, to be fair, there are several states that don't have NIL laws yet. And schools in those states are free to try to implement a rule like the one you suggested, but it's not realistic to think that any would actually do it, because schools in other states would use it against them in recruiting.

People can theorize on things that schools COULD do, or rules that they COULD make, but in the end, that's not much more than mental masturbation. The reality is that the current system is very likely what we're going to see for the near future. This is a time to roll with the punches rather than fight the current.

 

[Clonefan32]

The best way to keep them from wasting their money is to give them no money is certainly an interesting take.

 

[Clonedogg]

The best way to keep them from wasting their money is to give them no money is certainly an interesting take.

But effective.

 

[20eyes]

Giving kids money like this in college will lead to a lot more kids who had professional capabilities flaming out in college. They will now have all this money and no one to guide them. No sports agent will be around to give them advice. They will get lazy and waste their opportunities. It will also attract low life people hanging around them bleeding them dry for wine, women and song. This is impending disaster. Many of these kids will end up with no money and no college degree. That's a shame!

But it's not an impeding disaster... Athletes have been pi$$ing away money since they've been getting paid. Sorry if I don't bawl for a UT corner back recruit who blows through $2MM... I should've had it so good!

EDIT:

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women and Irish Whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."

-Tug McGraw

 

[intrepid27]

Jared and Chris touched on this in their latest podcast but I think NIL money will come back down to earth in 3-5 years. Most big boosters are businesspeople. My guess is after a couple times of paying a kid good money only to have him/her not perform, get arrested, etc. and they will go back to donating to the overall athletics dept.

I also think there will be some blue blood programs that will suffer due to their kids losing focus or being resentful of teammates. (Yes I'm looking at you Tejas.) In the mean time NIL will continue to have a negative impact on college athletics IMO.

 

[Clonefan32]

John Daly's Son, a Freshman Golfer at Arkansas, Signs NIL Deal With Hooters

John Daly II is following in his father's footsteps. The son of two-time golf major champion John Daly is a freshman at Arkansas, the same school his father att

www.thebiglead.com

How do you think this kid will do in college with this deal? Given his family lineage, I bet not well. This just fuels his demise. Why should he have gotten NIL money over some other more worthy kid?

Let me give you a little primer into how this stuff works.

Businesses, as a general rule, want to make profit. In order to make profit, they need consumers to consume their goods. In order to have consumers consume their goods, they typically need to advertise themselves to the public in a manner that makes them more recognizable and notable. To achieve this, they often times will seek out individuals who are also recognizable and notable themselves in an effort to utilize said individual's personal notoriety to establish additional notoriety for the company. As a general rule, this is harder to accomplish with an individual that no one knows as opposed to someone whose father was a cult hero professional golfer.

 

[Gunnerclone]

John Daly's Son, a Freshman Golfer at Arkansas, Signs NIL Deal With Hooters

John Daly II is following in his father's footsteps. The son of two-time golf major champion John Daly is a freshman at Arkansas, the same school his father att

www.thebiglead.com

How do you think this kid will do in college with this deal? Given his family lineage, I bet not well. This just fuels his demise. Why should he have gotten NIL money over some other more worthy kid?

This seems like a case for what “NIL” was supposed to be. Not “NIL Collective’s” to collect money from the masses and dole it out to players.

 

[CycloneSpinning]

My wife and I had this exact conversation last night. There's little doubt that some of these kids will blow through this money and be worse off in the end, but that exact thing happens to 50 & 60 year old "mature adults" who win the lottery.
And you can't fault the kids for taking the money. It's hard to make a reasonable argument against Tyrese doing what he's doing. (Understanding he doesn't have parents...sadly) I told her that if she were in a similar situation in college, her mom for sure would have sat her down and told her to take the money. If you're in a situation where you are going to (as far as you can tell) receive a similar or better opportunity to play with a similar or better programs...but you are going to make 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars more. Why wouldn't you go? You're setting yourself up for the NBA just as well as you would be at ISU, but if you have a career-ending injury, you've already given yourself a financial springboard most don't have.

As fans we want the player to be committing to the coach, to the fanbase, to the name on the jersey more than to themselves. Things have changed though. The ESPNs and Fox Sports Networks of the world have taken advantage of our hobby/passion and created a multi-billion dollar behemoth that has kids hearing cash registers instead of "and the crowd goes wild" when they think of hitting that buzzer beater. If we keep paying, it keeps going down that path. It's kind of on us at this point (whether we like it or not). We didn't ask for it...we were just fans. But we do have to decide how we're going to continue to fund this thing.

 

[Donqluione]

That's exactly my point. These aren't children. If they **** it up, and blow all of their NIL money, well... that sucks. Nobody to blame but themselves.

That seems quaint, being responsible for poor voluntary decisions. They can't be blamed, they'll be victims, we'll need to make them whole somehow (sarcasm).

Next thing, we'll be expecting student loans to be repaid, borrowers shouldn't be blamed for not reading the disclosures about repayment impacts and assuming excessive debt. (off to the cave, with a bunch of "dumb" ratings)

 

[LivntheCyLife]

Does anybody know if NIL deals typically include a contract? Can a contract with a non-compete clause be included?

It just seems crazy to me to have a system in place with only NIL payments for compensating players. No labor laws, no minimum wage, unclear contract rules. I just don't see how this system doesn't end up with some serious lawsuits and labor issues in the near future.

 

[NorthCyd]

The best way to keep them from wasting their money is to give them no money is certainly an interesting take.

This conversation on NIL just keeps reaching new depths of stupidity every day. It's really astounding.

 

[Mr Janny]

Does anybody know if NIL deals typically include a contract? Can a contract with a non-compete clause be included?

It just seems crazy to me to have a system in place with only NIL payments for compensating players. No labor laws, no minimum wage, unclear contract rules. I just don't see how this system doesn't end up with some serious lawsuits and labor issues in the near future.

This isn't new legal territory. Labor laws still apply in the same way that they would if anyone else signed a contract to represent a company.