The University already does allow open beer sales. That's what it has to do with it. Being prudent is a crock of crap.
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The University already does allow open beer sales. That's what it has to do with it. Being prudent is a crock of crap.
Once again, did it have alcohol in it? Most shot glasses are for decoration. Like others have said once most people hit a certain age they don't feel the need to drink continuously or be stumbling drunk.
Do you think if an underage gets in a wreck and the cops asked where did you buy they will rat our their friends or say I bought it at the game. They will say the game and now ISU has to defend itself. Selling to underaged now is close to a grand for the establishment. A few of those and it eats up the profit.
In the suites, they can control it easier than general admission student seating.
How is this different from every other place in the country that sells alcohol? You dont see bars closing down or pro venues talking about whether to end alcohol sales.
soooo.. we'll bowling in the SEZ?
Took me 25 pages of reading through "sell beer in the stadium" crap. Jeebus. Buy a flask and continue the buzz inside. It'd be cheaper anyways.
Now can we drop the beer sales thing and talk about stadium improvements?
Took me 25 pages of reading through "sell beer in the stadium" crap. Jeebus. Buy a flask and continue the buzz inside. It'd be cheaper anyways.
Now can we drop the beer sales thing and talk about stadium improvements?
I'd compare CHOT more closely to the Club Section or the Suites or Johnny's than to open beer sales in JTS ..... not even close.
Iowa State is selling the Blue Moon I buy in the Underground is it not? Shot glass no longer matters in this case. I can't remember if you can get booze in the M-Shop.
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I have seen bars close/shut down due to this. Licenses aren't renewed. Bars can see who is drinking the drinks easier than a stadium.
Like I said, pro venues have a smaller amount of 19-24 year olds than your typical college games. This is the age group that causes the most concern for alcohol sales.
Like I said, pro venues have a smaller amount of 19-24 year olds than your typical college games. This is the age group that causes the most concern for alcohol sales.
The complete lack of restriction on alcohol on University grounds during games?
ISU is probably the only Big 12 university (TCU and WVU could be different) that blatantly allows drinking on university property. Pretty much every other school has a rule against it and when you tailgate there, you have to put booze in a cup.
I agree. That's why I had the student section at a much higher percentage.
Let's look at it the other way -- Why do the vast (and I mean VAST) majority of Universities NOT allow beer sales at their FB games?? We all know why.
Stores get away with blatantly selling devices that are designed for smoking marijuana by saying they are for tobacco use, although using them for tobacco would be very harsh and unpleasant (compared to regular tobacco consuming methods).
This is the same ridiculous approach being advanced when someone says that shot glasses are being sold for decoration, and not alcohol consumption.
**** horse back in my yard again Man I hate that lady. Gonna shoot that thing.
Its because of the stigma associated with college and binge drinking that you mentioned earlier.
NOT because of concerns regarding liability or risk or getting into the hands of people under the legal age.
Because people who act like alcohol will bring on the next apocalypse have successfully been able to prevent it so far? Every time its talked about you get these ridiculous arguments that the whole stadium will go to hell, or that ISU will face some sort of enormous liability (despite that not proving the case at the hundreds of thousands of other establishments that serve alcohol).
Its changing, like it or not. More schools are adding it and it will eventually become a reality at more and more schools. Too much money on the table.
You make a good point here. My buddy here makes about $2.7M per, and he still likes to get his drink on before hopping in the car.
Change?? ... We said the same thing when we were stupid drunk kids in Clyde Williams. Don't hold your breath.
Damn -- you beat me to it -- plus add LE and the Veisha riots and you pretty much have in spades why ISU will not be a leader in the ETOH money race. This horse is double dead by now.You make a good point here. My buddy here makes about $2.7M per, and he still likes to get his drink on before hopping in the car.
Doesn't bother me either way. I can be around alcohol without drinking.
I know several people with shot glass collections. I used to and when I got kids I realizes it was a sophomoric type thing and pitched them. None ever used.
This will not get settled, but look at the breakup between those who are saying why we should and those who are saying we won't. I am more reading this as those who say we won't more than shouldn't. You can see most of the break with graduation years.
When I was 20 I thought getting hammered was what you were supposed to do and now I have grown and settled.
I know several people with shot glass collections. I used to and when I got kids I realizes it was a sophomoric type thing and pitched them. None ever used.
This will not get settled, but look at the breakup between those who are saying why we should and those who are saying we won't. I am more reading this as those who say we won't more than shouldn't. You can see most of the break with graduation years.
When I was 20 I thought getting hammered was what you were supposed to do and now I have grown and settled.
So you're saying...
1. Only old, rich people at the stadium can drink but nobody else can.
2. Jack Trice will be a horrible place if alcohol is sold.
3.
