So have you had a professor fail a whole class before?

ISUAgronomist

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So she started crying at the end of class and blamed it on being emotional, said she was going to "re-grade" everything.

She was also the professor that was crying because Steve Jobs died......I'll let you design majors guess who it is.

:biglaugh:

Sounds like your prof needs to meet up with someone at Student Services for some evaluation.
 

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Sturges was never actually that tough. He acted tough and ****** off entire classes because he'd threaten to turn people in for cheating from the solutions manual and then say he wasn't going to curve tests just because the class wasn't smart enough to do well.

1) He actually did give 0's to everyone using that solution manual on the assignment with the error. (first-hand knowledge)

2) He always found an excuse to curve all or part of the course at the end of the year. Guy was pure hardass, but he wasn't totally unfair with that stuff. I think most of his act was trying to weed some people out (which he did). Luckily, after having him 3 times I had that figured out so I didn't let those first test Ds and Fs get to me. :twitcy:
 

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I thought Professor Sturges was tough. However, William (Bill) Bathie (Thermo II) demanded more out of his students (and me) then Leroy ever did IMO.

Edit: To interesting side notes about Bill Bathie.

1. My grandfather had Bill Bathie for Thermo and when he found out I had him as well for Thermo his response was "That hard *** is still teaching!"

2. Bathie apologized to his students for not attending class one Friday because his wife died.

Then there is Professor Nelson (Thermo I) not only could you fail a test you could do worse. His grading scale included

F
F -1
F -2
F-3
F-4
So did you graduate?
 

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I had an Environmental Science professor that reported over 100 students to the dean, including me, because we failed to properly cite a newspaper cutting that was pasted to the sheet we had to do a ONE paragraph write up on.

Apparently even if the article is 2" away from your response simply quoting it isn't enough. As soon as about 20 of us complained the dean informed the professor that it wasn't deemed "cheating".
 

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Its an English class you don't learn anything anyway.

Sure, you say that now. Wait until you are in the real world and you are judged more on grammar than content...

I said and thought the same thing back in my day.
 

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I had an Environmental Science professor that reported over 100 students to the dean, including me, because we failed to properly cite a newspaper cutting that was pasted to the sheet we had to do a ONE paragraph write up on.

Apparently even if the article is 2" away from your response simply quoting it isn't enough. As soon as about 20 of us complained the dean informed the professor that it wasn't deemed "cheating".

Holy ****. What a *********.
 

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Sturges was never actually that tough. He acted tough and ****** off entire classes because he'd threaten to turn people in for cheating from the solutions manual and then say he wasn't going to curve tests just because the class wasn't smart enough to do well.

1) He actually did give 0's to everyone using that solution manual on the assignment with the error. (first-hand knowledge)

2) He always found an excuse to curve all or part of the course at the end of the year. Guy was pure hardass, but he wasn't totally unfair with that stuff. I think most of his act was trying to weed some people out (which he did). Luckily, after having him 3 times I had that figured out so I didn't let those first test Ds and Fs get to me. :twitcy:

I never had Sturges as an undergrad, but I'm taking a class with him now as a Graduate Student. It will probably be the best grade I have ever gotten in college. The exams are take home and he give us a week to do them and the homework basically follows examples he does in class. It seems like some professors are really hard on undergrads but love grad students.
 

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I never had Sturges as an undergrad, but I'm taking a class with him now as a Graduate Student. It will probably be the best grade I have ever gotten in college. The exams are take home and he give us a week to do them and the homework basically follows examples he does in class. It seems like some professors are really hard on undergrads but love grad students.

I have been told by several people who have gone on to grad school that once you get to that level, the profs all assume you know what you're doing.
 

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Sure, you say that now. Wait until you are in the real world and you are judged more on grammar than content...

I said and thought the same thing back in my day.

And I thought it was just at my place of employment...nothing like having a project funding request denied because somebody thought you needed a comma in one place. :confused:
 

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When I took English 302, I had a professor that didn't grade anything until the mid-term and you had to grade each of the assignments yourself and defend why you think you deserve the grade on each and what your mid-term grade should be. He would then evaluate your argument then give you a mid-term grade. Had to be one of the laziest approaches to grading that I have ever seen because I don't know if he actually read any of your assignments. I think he just read your evaluation ang gave you a grade he thought you deserved.

He was also one of the professors that believed the average grade in a class should be a C with a few B's and only 1-2 A's. He wasn't too happy when 3/4 of the class thought they should get A's. Glad I wasn't in that group because he punished them for believing they deserved A's. I was glad that I took the class over the summer because I couldn't have handled a semester with that guy.
 

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Had a ComSci instructor (won't call him a prof because he didn't have the title) refuse to curve an exam that the class average was 48% on and a F was 65% and below I think. So basically that probably meant all but a handful of people failed miserably on it. Needless to say the class after he posted the exam scores was fun to watch the people you knew were doing well in the class just go off on him because even a lot of them tanked the exam and felt that was on him for testing on material he had not covered or obviously not covered well enough that we comprehended it. He still refused to break his "no grading curve" rule but ironically the following weeks we got some unprecidented "extra credit" assignments that had not been offered up to that point in the semester that was obviously his way of trying to bring the averages back up.
 

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I took econometrics in my last semester. There were two sections:One for real economics majors and one for the Ag Bus kids who needed the 300 level econ. I actually thought the class would be interesting but of course I got into the one for the Ag Bus kids because, well, it was my last semester and I liked to party. First class he says "If you're here to learn econometrics you will. If you're here to get your credits and get out of here, you will." Labs were on Fridays and were optional as you could do the work on your own as well. I don't think I went to 3 all semester and when I did make it, I felt like ****. At the end of the day I had a 33% and an A-. The only ones above me were the econ guys who didn't get into the other one because it filled up.
 

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When I took English 302, I had a professor that didn't grade anything until the mid-term and you had to grade each of the assignments yourself and defend why you think you deserve the grade on each and what your mid-term grade should be. He would then evaluate your argument then give you a mid-term grade. Had to be one of the laziest approaches to grading that I have ever seen because I don't know if he actually read any of your assignments. I think he just read your evaluation ang gave you a grade he thought you deserved.

He was also one of the professors that believed the average grade in a class should be a C with a few B's and only 1-2 A's. He wasn't too happy when 3/4 of the class thought they should get A's. Glad I wasn't in that group because he punished them for believing they deserved A's. I was glad that I took the class over the summer because I couldn't have handled a semester with that guy.


I don't remember his name, but I'm pretty sure I had him. Wasn't he taking graduate courses at Hamline University in St. Paul while being an English "lecturer" at ISU?

I lucked out and got an A in the class. Don't know how I pulled it off, but I did.
 

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I did have another class MIS 331 where you had an exam in the very first week of class that you had to score 65% or better on else the prof would drop you from the class right there and you'd have to enroll in it again the next semester. The exam was over C++ and basic programing terminology from your pre-req ComSci C++ class. Well I was 3 semesters removed from that class already where a lot of the others in the class had just taken it in one of the 2 prior semesters so I was sweating bullets trying to refresh myself on all that in short time. Thankfully I scored in the 70's and was able to continue on but how much would that suck to be booted out of a class just 1 week in then have that hole in your schedule for the rest of the semester? That class was also a pre-req to a few other classes too I believe.
 

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I don't remember his name, but I'm pretty sure I had him. Wasn't he taking graduate courses at Hamline University in St. Paul while being an English "lecturer" at ISU?

I lucked out and got an A in the class. Don't know how I pulled it off, but I did.

Was he tall, going bald, and like poetry?
 

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Accounting class two years ago, we all did horrible on a test and/or quiz, the professor blamed us. Enough bad evaluations, complaints to the advisers we're made. I dont even think he still teaches at ISU now because of it.

I've been hearing awful things about an econ teacher acting in the same manner this year about overall poor class results, and blaming the students.

My guess is Herman Quirmbach. (sp?) I had him for Micro Econ, and he was the worst teacher I had in any subject....ever. Made an obvious effort to make students feel stupid in class and never explained anything. He might as well have been teaching nuclear thermo-dynamics. He was a Stooge and a half!
 
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