Social Distancing at ISU

Jer

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It’s evidence submission #6,348,837,012 since the pandemic started as to how stupid, self centered, and careless humans can be. There is no denying why we have it so much worse in the US than any other civilized country. While the vast majority of these students will be fine, there are countless others they will expose over the next few weeks that weren’t self centered and out partying (students, teachers, doctors, parents, grandparents, friends, etc).

People mocked the estimates in March that showed 60,000 dead by fall and we’ve done our best to get to 160,000 already. The new models drop tonight, but last weeks projects 300,000 dead by December 1st. No reason to believe we won’t find a great way to blow past that estimate as well.
 

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It’s easy to sit back now and criticize, but I can guarantee that if most of us was just starting college up, we would be at parties.


Exactly. I will go further and say having kids living on campus or in town for a bunch of online classes is even worse. Son said he has a few that he could hammer the week out on Monday and be done in one day. Get basically all online and be done by Wednesday with class........what will happen? Even more parties, I know it, you know it, it’s college kids. My son is mostly in person but most people on here are saying their kids are totally online. Setting up for a bigger party environment by posting the whole week on line.
 
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It’s evidence submission #6,348,837,012 since the pandemic started as to how stupid, self centered, and careless humans can be. There is no denying why we have it so much worse in the US than any other civilized country. While the vast majority of these students will be fine, there are countless others they will expose over the next few weeks that weren’t self centered and out partying (students, teachers, doctors, parents, grandparents, friends, etc).

People mocked the estimates in March that showed 60,000 dead by fall and we’ve done our best to get to 160,000 already. The new models drop tonight, but last weeks projects 300,000 dead by December 1st. No reason to believe we won’t find a great way to blow past that estimate as well.

People mocked the models that had 1 to 2 million dead and a health care system unable to handle.
 

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People mocked the models that had 1 to 2 million dead and a health care system unable to handle.

People bring that up but that was a single outlier model and based on no social distancing, lockdowns, masks or anything else. Every reputable model has consistently been under what we’ve actually hit. Those that like to bring up that model have never actually read it, what it was communicating, or looked at the other 99% that have been too conservative.
 

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People mocked the models that had 1 to 2 million dead and a health care system unable to handle.

Those models were the “do nothing” projections over like two years if we did not make any changes at all. Surely everyone here is sharp enough to understand that we made major changes as a society to help reduce the spread of this.

Right? Because your post left me wondering.
 

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Those models were the “do nothing” projections over like two years if we did not make any changes at all. Surely everyone here is sharp enough to understand that we made major changes as a society to help reduce the spread of this.

Right? Because your post left me wondering.

Not disputing model changes and societal behavior changes over time to help, but that model early caused many to panic with images of Italy’s hospitals overrun to boot.
 

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They call it 801 day. Its all the frats and sororities that could not drink all week until 8:01am yesterday. Have a friend who has a house in the area that had no power yet due to Derecho, she was talking about all the music and people partying yesterday morning already. You shall reap what you sow.
Only alcoholics consider not drinking for a week a challenge. I know this because I’m an alcoholic.
 
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I’m a little surprised that I’m with this viewpoint too. It’s a horrible look, but we all knew this was part of the equation of bringing students back to campus.

Honestly partying outside probably isn’t much bigger of a risk than asking them to live in dorms or attend classes in person.

Honestly all the CDC data says this age group has the LEAST risk. Sure they'll spread it amongst themselves and the health pros say most of it will be asymptomatic, but their risk of death and serious complications is basically nil. If I was staff I'd make damn sure I was taking MY precautions but to think 18-22 year old kids will think of anyone other than themselves is naive.
 

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i feel as though some of you are missing that fact that general population of students have classes with athletes. so when these students increase their scope of contact with others it indirectly impacts the students. tammy and timmy don't know that they got covid on saturday and don't show symptoms until friday will ****. they already came into contact with 100s of people

I doubt those players have many in person classes at all. And if they do, it’s mostly in oversized rooms where everyone can socially distance.
 

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Does it? I assume you went to elementary, middle, high school then college, and still remember the HUGE difference. So unless something has changed, I don't remember many kids ages K-12 living "on campus" packed in like sardines. I may be wrong. Send us some of those famous photos with hundreds of 3rd and 4th graders outside their Little Tykes frat houses with their favorite sippy cup partying down like there is no tomorrow.
Will a photo from University of Iowa suffice? Pretty much same thing.
 
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Honestly all the CDC data says this age group has the LEAST risk. Sure they'll spread it amongst themselves and the health pros say most of it will be asymptomatic, but their risk of death and serious complications is basically nil. If I was staff I'd make damn sure I was taking MY precautions but to think 18-22 year old kids will think of anyone other than themselves is naive.

If we set expectations to zero, we will only ever get zero. If we set expectations higher and actually start preparing 18-22 year olds for the real world - and a pandemic sounds like a great time to start - maybe more would actually be able to make it successfully on their own.

If my 9 year old can ride through Ames with his grandparents like yesterday and come home complaining about seeing “so many stupid people without masks, like 95% of them”, I’m thinking we could raise the bar a bit for those twice his age.
 

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If you had a son or daughter that you noticed in one of those pictures- w/o a mask - what would you do?

Just shrug my shoulders and think we tried our super hardest not to spread the virus.
 
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