So when is the big pro-mask protest in Ames for all of the people in the “let’s play football” threads?
Social Distancing at ISU
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Oxford University
https://reason.com/2020/08/14/did-sweden-accidentally-blunder-into-covid-19-herd-immunity/
In a July 24 preprint study, a team of researchers associated with Oxford University's Centre for Tropical Medicine and Global Health estimate that the COVID-19 herd immunity threshold could be as low as 10 to 20 percent. In their calculations, the team assumes that the individuals who are more susceptible or more exposed tend to become quickly infected and thus become immune early in the epidemic. Their subsequent interactions with the still-uninfected will thus not result in additional cases. Basically, they think the virus may stymie itself by disproportionately removing those most useful to it from contributing to its future transmission.
The Oxford researchers apply their analysis to the United Kingdom, Belgium, Spain, and Portugal. They conclude that all four countries, will reach a herd immunity threshold
Only people who've actually been responsible for people dying from corona virus or those governors who decided to put infected people in with old people homes, who were at high risk of dying. Not anyone who doesn't wear a mask.
I remember that call. It was quite uncomfortable. Veishea news coverage front of a large group on the news.
So if someone has Covid, goes to a store, refuses to wear a mask, and breathes into someone's face in line, and that person gets Covid as a result and dies, the person breathing on them didn't have responsibility?
Same with work spaces?
And PLEASE don't come back with the notion that someone can't spread Covid without symptoms.
Haven't had a daily count of cases this low since late June.
Deaths on Sunday and Monday are always low on this site but they didn't go bonkers over the last month compared to the initial outbreak, which is positive.
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.info
Yeah, I think we are seeing some positive effects from more people wearing masks, and the other measures states took in July when things blew up. The state of Kansas did a study on it and found clear positive trends in all the counties that mandated it after it went into effect.
Still too high and embarrassing compared to the rest of the world but at least it’s an improvement. I’ll take anything we can get.
These college kids have been out and about this entire summer and have been going to parties. I'm not saying that's a good thing either, it's just how it is.
Somebody doesn’t believe in personal responsibility. What about the guy in Cali who attended a party knowingly infected, then his friend got it from him and died? To me, that guy is responsible. That is just one anecdotal account and of course there are many others, but it all boils down to personal responsibility. If you know you have it and put others at risk, you are responsible for what happens.
I won’t get into the macro level on this post and address failed and incompetent govt responses.
Gee, we've, more or less, locked up college aged kids with their parents since the middle of March. Curtailing their lives and stifling their social life to an extreme and we're surprised that they want to party and socialize when the apparent restraints are removed?
Who couldn't have seen that coming?
Disappointed: Yes/maybe
Surprised: Not at all.
The definition of 'lock down' and 'shut down' sure have gotten pretty loose over the last 1/2 year.
From what I've seen the new 'locked inside' is going out and doing all sorts of stuff with friends and family and this includes all age levels and 'shut down' means still operating but with different rules.
Well most people who know they have covid aren't going to stores. And asymptomatic person can't really blame them as they probably don't even know they have it. Plus wearing a mask doesn't completely stop the spread.
These are the situations that always confuse me with the exposure term. If the two people you mentioned are only in line together for 5-10 minutes, then they would not be considered exposed right? I thought it was if you were near a positive person there was exposure, but when I brought up an example of being at a target (where probably 75% had masks on properly (99% had masks but a third were on in name only), I thought it was potential exposure but was told it wasn’t 15 minutes so it wasn’t an exposure. I’m an truly unsure what is considered exposure and what isn’t at this point.
I mean yes if someone knowingly has it and is out in crowds then yes I agree with you they should probably be held responsible for it.
Kansas just set an all-time high of 855 cases. Nationwide decline is because of the sun-belt sates that recently spiked went down in numbers
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/08/11/1006366/immunity-slowing-down-coronavirus-parts-us/
What is known is that after rising at an alarming pace starting in May, new cases of covid-19 in Sun Belt states like Florida have started to fall. Some of that may be due to social distancing behavior, but rising rates of immunity are also a factor, according to Youyang Gu, a computer scientist whose Covid-19 Projections is among 34 pandemic models tracked by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“Immunity may play a significant part in the regions that are declining,” says Gu. At least until the fall, which is how far his models look forward, he says, “I don’t think there is going to be another spike” of infections in southern states
This age group drinks and drives, drinks and texts, post dumbshit on social media every moment of every day, smokes, vapes, has unprotected sex. They drive on empty, they drive in the snow and don't have snow tires on. The don't pick up their dirty socks and leave half-eaten hamburgers under their beds. NOW we expect them to take a year-long break from being kids and socializing?
I'm not defending them, I'm calling out folks who put over reliance on that group of people to do anything more than culture the rona amongst themselves and think with their dikkks.
If you're a mask and distance guy - BE a mask and distance guy. If you're at-risk, LIVE like you're at-risk. But don't be mad when large swaths of kids do exactly what large swaths of kids have do what they have always done.
Of COURSE they can do better. We ALL can do better. But sure as hell don't put your health into that aspirational goal.
VERY specific about "objects". I assume they are talking about trapper keepers, and backpacks - other education-related implements?
Contact time is a huge part of the equation. Like any contagious disease. But it isn’t as simple as >X minutes you are at risk, <X you are not at risk. The longer your exposure the more likely you are to get any contagious disease. Shorter exposure reduces likelihood but of course it also depends if someone is coughing in your direction or breathing right on you, etc. I don’t think there is anything magic about this.
