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[NoCreativity]

I think Lard and MJ are opposites in style. MJ does everything but rim protect. Lard does nothing but rim protect. If it were up to me, I'd play Jacobson, Talley, and sometimes THT at the 4 , with Lard, Solo, and Conditt as the 5.

This is a solution I could definitely get behind.

 

[NoCreativity]

Then don't quote me and go on your little spiel.

Ok, I wont do that again. Sorry!

 

[Gunnerclone]

@CyTwins needs to handle this **** troll that is having this raging CF boner since we lost to TOE.

 

[NoCreativity]

Iowa isn't the biggest rival. If it was......CSP would have inserted injured players in a desperate attempt to win the game at all costs like the red face looney toon on the other bench did. If Iowa was our biggest rival, then Mr. Young would have been put in long enough to cause s*** with Mr. Cook and get him thrown out of the game. Then....he would have put in Wiggonton to lay looney toon jr. out on the floor. What does CSP care....they are out until for another few weeks......and he just has to beat Iowa, right? No hawkroach.....we are your teams biggest rival, and the way red face looney toon coached the game did more than verify that fact.

And your schtick is getting very old. Been reading it for years. You don't want to "watch that crap"............BS! You enjoy watching that crap....then come here and insert yourself into conversations and project yourself as an ISU fan. Not that it matters in what happens in the world......you aren't that important. But it sure the H would be nice to come here and carry on a nice, well rounded and thought out conversation with fellow clones just because we can without some self involved BS artist making a mockery of almost every basketball thread. So please, this season.....give us all a break and take a walk. Thank you.

You want to "carry on a well rounded" discussion? It doesnt start by people making ridiculous threads about conditioning meant to stir up controversy from both sides.

Maybe you should be more concerned with stuff like that than me sticking up for Lard?

 

[NoCreativity]

@CyTwins needs to handle this **** troll that is having this raging CF boner since we lost to TOE.

Lol, you are totally upset by the fact that I like Cam Lard and am sticking up for him arent you?

 

[NoCreativity]

You guys all want "well rounded discussion" but are completely oblivious to the fact the original post on this thread was a troll job in itself just meant to divide and stir up peoples feelings. Go read the original post and pay attention to the tone of it and you'll see exactly what I mean.

If you guys honestly wanted good basketball discussion you would get rid of stuff like this.

 

[jmb]

Lol, you are totally upset by the fact that I like Cam Lard and am sticking up for him arent you?

Why would anyone be mad about you liking lard. You are simply caustic and irritating.

 

[CYdTracked]

Im out on the Lard subject, of course bozos are going to be making this exact same thread after he plays 10 minutes Eastern Illinois so who knows.

We'll this didn't last long...

 

[Dingus]

Now that Young’s back can we argue about his minutes next? I’ll take the ‘He was great last year and should play more’ side, you take the ‘He stinks now and needs to earn his minutes back’ side.

 

[blutarsky]

I think Lard and MJ are opposites in style. MJ does everything but rim protect. Lard does nothing but rim protect. If it were up to me, I'd play Jacobson, Talley, and sometimes THT at the 4 , with Lard, Solo, and Conditt as the 5.

I think this was the plan during the off-season. After 11 games it would hard to keep Shayok, THT and Jacobsen out of the starting lineup.

I remember Jacobsen saying he didn’t want to play a traditional 5 like he was in Nebraska. Thought that was a part of why he transferred.

 

[CYdTracked]

I think the biggest disconnect going on in the back and forth on this topic is the inability of some to separate potential with actual results. No one is rooting against or tearing down Lard, I thing everyone agrees we're a better team if he can play as well as we've seen him play last season. The reality of things right now though is so far he hasn't been able to stay on the floor long enough to be that guy due to his off court issues that resulted in a suspension plus his foul problems. Give the kid some time, it's probably going to be a longer process to integrate him into things than some like but if hes committed to being the best teammate he can he'll eventually get his minutes if the results are there.

This team is not the same kind if team as last year's and this group got a head start forming on court chemistry too. That's just part of the consequences of his off court choices that kept him from developing that chemistry at the same time together and now he has to work his way into some kind of role because he missed out on that valuable time.

 

[madguy30]

Now that Young’s back can we argue about his minutes next? I’ll take the ‘He was great last year and should play more’ side, you take the ‘He stinks now and needs to earn his minutes back’ side.

If Wiggs doesn't go 16/7/6 with 2 steals just consider this season a wash.

 

[FinalFourCy]

@FinalFourCy

Why didnt you just say Lard has more fouls so far than Jacobson has in X number of games, then pick the games where Jacobson has the fewest fouls, being careful not to go over 14, and list them out for all of us to see?

What I said is not complicated and is indisputable, which is why your attempts to refute it have simply reinforced the point.

 

[CTTB78]

......
I would put the order though:
Jacobson-keep his minutes about the same
Young- 20-25 minutes
Lard- 15-20 minutes
Conditt-spot minutes
I do know Lard needs more than 3 or 5 minutes here or there.... I know you'll say there arent that many froncourt minutes to go around.....

No, that's not what I'm going say.
I agree that Lard needs to play more than three minutes, but I would not go as high as you have (20) based on his current play. I would hope that Lard can see the court for at least 10, but also feel Conditt should get more than 'spot minutes'.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Lol, you are totally upset by the fact that I like Cam Lard and am sticking up for him arent you?

I hate to break it to you, but Gunner isn’t that into you, he’s just emo.

No one gives a **** about which player you like. It’s the absence of logic and reason in your posts that’s appalling.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I hate to break it to you, but Gunner isn’t that into you, he’s just emo.

No one gives a **** about which player you like. It’s the absence of logic and reason in your posts that’s appalling.

Man, me calling you emo that one time like two years ago really stuck with you didn’t it? It’s just a message board I’m sure you’re really neat in real life.

 

[CyTwins]

BS!!! That stadium was half empty when we were down big. Some people may have came back in once they realized Iowa State was coming back, but for awhile I guarantee you 50% of the people were gone.

You are miserable

 

[jmb]

You are miserable

That is generous.

 

[Cat Stevens]

Probably. You guys did the exact same thing with Mckay, critiquing every little move he made, from what he did in warmups to his body language.

It's weird Mckay never had issues with Hoiberg, but all of sudden he's lazy, is a headcase, doesnt practice hard enough, etc as soon as Prohm took over.

Maybe Prohm needs to take a look at who he's recruiting then. If you are going to take chances on guys like this who might have issues you have to be able to adapt to them.

Yeah this dumbass ^^^ definitely does not have an anti Prohm agenda.

You continue to show your lack of understanding. Of course you aren’t an Iowa State fan, but you continue to spout off.

Just dumb.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Yeah this dumbass ^^^ definitely does not have an anti Prohm agenda.

You continue to show your lack of understanding. Of course you aren’t an Iowa State fan, but you continue to spout off.

Just dumb.

Even worse than the other hok fans. I do respect them that they don’t pretend at least.