Star Wars Rogue One

Clonefan94

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False. The Jedi were a tiny group to begin with an at the time of Rogue One there are only 2 left. For most of the people in the galaxy is indeed a myth.

As I said, I don't go any deeper than the movies. Yet, according to the timeline of the movies, when Rogue One takes place, the Clone wars had pretty much just wrapped up, less than a generation ago. I'm on board with the backwater thing, but the movies showed a lot of Jedi in battle during that war. I wasn't born until 25 years after Wold War 2 was over. But denying jedi and the force, just kind of seems like denying the fact that Kamikaze Pilots existed during WWII, there weren't any of them left when I was born.

Anyways, thanks for trying to explain, it still seems like an odd thing to keep emphasizing. I'm only seeing it from the movie perspective though, so maybe that's it.
 

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False. The Jedi were a tiny group to begin with an at the time of Rogue One there are only 2 left. For most of the people in the galaxy is indeed a myth.

Also, any children with Jedi abilities were sought out and brought to the Jedi Temple for training so it would be rare for those with jedi abilities to be found traipsing across the galaxy.
 

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Looking through that, I noticed one thing I'd like to have explained. And this could just be my over-all lack of in depth knowledge about Star Wars. The "Doesn't believe in the Force" thing. How is this a possibility? I mean, I could understand if the force simply made people feel this way or that, shoot a little better, handle a lightsaber a little better. But, that's not the case, we've seen in many movies how you can use the force to literally throw things around.

I mean I could understand if it's the whole, "The Force is no match for a good Blaster" thing, but how is it emphasized in someone's character that they don't believe in the force? In the Star Wars world, the force is pretty much fact, not myth.

I don't know, like i said, I've seen all the movies, but I'm far from an expanded universe type of person. It just seems like a really odd plot tool to keep bringing up, "Oh this guy doesn't believe in the force, we'll show him."

There are people here on earth today that believe that the world is flat. FLAT!!!!
Others that believe Trump doesnt have gray hair.

So I don't think it's implausible that someone in the story arc can doubt the force exists.
 

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As I said, I don't go any deeper than the movies. Yet, according to the timeline of the movies, when Rogue One takes place, the Clone wars had pretty much just wrapped up, less than a generation ago. I'm on board with the backwater thing, but the movies showed a lot of Jedi in battle during that war. I wasn't born until 25 years after Wold War 2 was over. But denying jedi and the force, just kind of seems like denying the fact that Kamikaze Pilots existed during WWII, there weren't any of them left when I was born.

Anyways, thanks for trying to explain, it still seems like an odd thing to keep emphasizing. I'm only seeing it from the movie perspective though, so maybe that's it.

One of the many failures of the prequels. Lucas did indeed make it seem like there were thousands of them all over the galaxy.
 

Clonefan94

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There are people here on earth today that believe that the world is flat. FLAT!!!!
Others that believe Trump doesnt have gray hair.

So I don't think it's implausible that someone in the story arc can doubt the force exists.

I don't think that it's implausible either, I just think it's odd that they keep bringing it up in movie after movie, that's all.

I find this explained well enough though, thank you all for the clarification.

One of the many failures of the prequels. Lucas did indeed make it seem like there were thousands of them all over the galaxy.

And as I said, this is where I get my information. So based on the prequels, it sure seemed like Jedi were commonplace in the universe at one time. I get it now.
 

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There are people here on earth today that believe that the world is flat. FLAT!!!!
Others that believe Trump doesnt have gray hair.

So I don't think it's implausible that someone in the story arc can doubt the force exists.

94 has a good point though. The prequels got it wrong. I think of it as the Jedi were secret service and used the force secretly. Or like SEALS if you will. Ever seen a SEAL fire his weapon in combat? No. But we saw it all over the place in the prequels.
 

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94 has a good point though. The prequels got it wrong. I think of it as the Jedi were secret service and used the force secretly. Or like SEALS if you will. Ever seen a SEAL fire his weapon in combat? No. But we saw it all over the place in the prequels.

I agree the whole prequel everything was a complete mess. But, to put things into perspective, there are billions of stars in a galaxy. To have a few thousand Jedi amongst trillions and trillions of people would still be extremely rare (far less than one per planet or sentient species). The idea that each jedi was placed as a General in front of a clone army was dumb. And that ridiculous battle where 100 or so jedi all showed up in an arena all at once to get mowed down by a mob of insect men and droids was even more ludicrous.

*DAMMIT* I'm throwing up in my mouth just thinking about those films.

Here's a thought for you...

By taking force capable children away from their families and prohibiting them from marriage and procreation, the Jedi were breeding themselves out of the gene pool.
 

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Remember that Luke had never even heard of the force until Ben told him about it and he was a young adult. This is taking place about the same time.
 

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New Rogue One trailer tonight during the Olympics. When? Well, if they told you, then they couldn't keep your eyes on the TV.

Or...just wait until it gets up on YouTube.
 
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As I said, I don't go any deeper than the movies. Yet, according to the timeline of the movies, when Rogue One takes place, the Clone wars had pretty much just wrapped up, less than a generation ago. I'm on board with the backwater thing, but the movies showed a lot of Jedi in battle during that war. I wasn't born until 25 years after Wold War 2 was over. But denying jedi and the force, just kind of seems like denying the fact that Kamikaze Pilots existed during WWII, there weren't any of them left when I was born.

Anyways, thanks for trying to explain, it still seems like an odd thing to keep emphasizing. I'm only seeing it from the movie perspective though, so maybe that's it.

Luke Skywalker: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense

That is from Episode IV. About the same time period as Rogue One, which is said to take place between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope, but closer to the latter.
 

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Luke Skywalker: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense

That is from Episode IV. About the same time period as Rogue One, which is said to take place between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope, but closer to the latter.

On top of this, the galaxy is a pretty large place. It would be pretty easy for a lot of people to never see nor know anyone who saw a jedi in action 15 years or more earlier.
 

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