Nobody pretends the PAC isn't hot garbage. Everybody knows it is.
Texas forums/CF agree: new big 12 is 2nd tier G5 (edit)
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Yeah, and right now, today, it's not particularly close. The Pac 12, with all it's names, is really bad except of for Oregon. Standford and USC are garbage, Washington is a shell of itself, UCLA is okay, I guess but not great. Then, the ACC, without Clemson being very good has no really good teams.
I'm sure all of that will be overlooked in favor of the names of the institutions but as far as performance, the Big 12 is equal to those other two.
The problem with that fumble is that Texas can't have it both ways. You can't want to keep moving the pile and having the play blown dead at the same time.
That was a first half where if you're Texas you are thinking, how in the hell are we leading, and we better fix something or we're going to get run out of the building.
When I think of a metaphor for Texas, I think of a parasite that latches onto and then eventually destroys its host (i.e., SW Conference, Big 12 Conference). Enjoy your new addition, SEC.
There isn't much in Sark's head coaching record to make me think he'll turn it around. He was a complete flameout at USC while battling personal issues. He didn't light it up at Washington.
Now he has a program with built in negatives (delusional fan base, activist alumni who cut big checks and demand a voice, NIL pressures)
I wouldn't bet the farm in Sark bringing Texas "back" for the 15th time in the last 15 years.
Hey Texas, enjoy being the designated homecoming opponent for teams in the SEC.
Texas probably just doesn't know what to do when they see their players giving great extra effort. The Texas mentality of seeing the Robinson fumble in the first quarter is like Homer Simpson:
"You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try."
Still maybe the best anyone could expect with the way things are shifting. Even the two "super conferences" are going to have issues. Both the SEC and Big 10 have unbalanced divisions with one being really strong and the other having one good team and fodder. Just going to get worse as the top teams work the NIL with boosters and their name brand and pretty much turn this whole show into semi-pro.
People really overstate the strength of the Big 12 going forward. KU is one of the worst in d1 college football, Tech and TCU are going to be pretty poor going forward, West Virginia is not great, Houston is having a great year but they haven’t played anyone and still got dominated by a bad Tech team, Cincinnati won’t always be top 10, UCF is looking pretty average lately. We can pretend like all of that is so much better than the PAC 12 and ACC, but in reality it really isn’t.
With the new schedules, if a team from the Pac 12, ACC, and Big 12 go undefeated, who do you think it more likely to make the playoff and be higher ranked? Heck, Oregon is getting more respect than Oklahoma this year and they even have 1 loss. That respect isn’t going to be helped when Texas and OU leave.
Also, it’s hard not to believe that our recruiting is only going to get tougher. Our selling point of you get to play OU and Texas every year goes away. That is going to hurt some.
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Agree. Let's talk about the ***** - cry baby Longhorn fans posts and how Iowa State kicked the **** out of their pansy football team.
Eat **** Texas.
Talking heads are already talking definitively about firing him after next year unless he pulls 10 ish wins out of his butt. They were expecting 8-4 minimum with a solidified quarterback position to build momentum after year one. They are staring 6-6, possibly 5-7 with two options at quarterback nobody is remotely excited about, and Sark was never close to their first choice, and it's debatable if he was even close to their 2nd choice. Most objective analysis was calling Sark a lateral move, but most Texas people aren't going to give the hire that much credit right now as you can see. They won't hesitate to fire him with 4 years left on his deal. Head coach at Texas is a tenuous way to live.
Difference is we’re losing our best actual team and our best cash cow. That wasn’t the case when we lost Nebraska, CU, A&M and Missouri. Who will be the best team now? ISU? OSU? Cincy? BYU? None of those bring the punch OU does. And I feel like BYU is the only one that would have potential staying power.
Reality is that we have no idea how it will play out. But you’re naive if you think ISU won’t jump to the Big Ten or Pac if given the chance.
You are also underselling the potential of Cinci and Houston with a new seat at the big boy table. Houston could absolutely turn into a monster and Cicni has a ton of potential too. UCF has a ton of potential too. Jumping from the AAC to P5 status absolutely matters.
Based upon that post, I'd have to say mission accomplished by our team and our fans.
You’re right it’s not held in the esteem of the current Big 12
Of course the current big 12 will not exist in a few months, so that comparison is just an assumption
At our best...We are humble, realistic, and passionately faithful who do things the right way and earn everything we get.
At our worst...We are self-loathing, jaded, and defeatist apologists who can't have nice things at our worst.
I'll still take our worst over what you see at Texas, Nebby, and TOE any day of the week. However, we absolutely have a lot to celebrate about on the field and in the future big 12. Period.
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I feel like they quickly approaching the “bring in a mediocre coach from the NFL” desperation move era.
