Sorry to focus in on one part, but I would not want to be the team that has to play ISU or OU (hell even WVU or Baylor) on one day's rest.
The BIGGER picture.
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Sorry to focus in on one part, but I would not want to be the team that has to play ISU or OU (hell even WVU or Baylor) on one day's rest.
It's a really good feeling when the Selection Special is talking about the "battle-tested" teams and we'll be right in there with all of our ranked wins, good road wins, and top 10 SOS.
I disagree! I think last year's team was more of a TEAM! They seemed to have all the parts figured out and everyone knew their role. We shouldn't be needing half time speeches to get going in march! It's like this year's team doesn't have the same fire under their butts. Or maybe there is just higher expectations this year that haven't been lived up to YET (regular season title). At least there's still time to chase NCAA dreams. .... full disclosure: NOT a bandwagon fan! Been going to games since I was 4
.... regardless, it's still been a fun season so far!
So focusing on one week of the season is the "big picture"? Otherwise, this is best regular season ISU has had over a decade so I'm not sure about your point.
THIS. If we got curb-stomped at home, I'm not sure we'd recover mentally. I mean, I could have easily seen an early exit from BOTH tourneys.
But . . . now . . . :jiggy:
The bigger picture I see is that this is a tough league. I don't view the KSU loss as breakdown or meltdown. I see it as KSU being good enough to beat any team in the league at their place if they bring their A game.
I'm not worried about this team. The XII grind will help us in the NCAAs (as I hope it does for KU, OU, BU etc.)
I disagree! I think last year's team was more of a TEAM! They seemed to have all the parts figured out and everyone knew their role. We shouldn't be needing half time speeches to get going in march! It's like this year's team doesn't have the same fire under their butts. Or maybe there is just higher expectations this year that haven't been lived up to YET (regular season title). At least there's still time to chase NCAA dreams. .... full disclosure: NOT a bandwagon fan! Been going to games since I was 4
Last year's team went 0-2 to start March including a 13 point loss to Baylor. I guess going 0-2 is better than pulling out a come from behind win.
Us "sunshine pumpers" maybe just don't have a terrible memory about this season, or last year's team for that matter. This year's squad won tough, contested conference game on the road in Morgantown AFTER Morris AND Hogue fouled out. They won tough, down to the wire games against OSU (home & away) at home against KSU and KU and had big comebacks at Baylor (though it came up short), and of course last night. I don't understand why people think this year's team is talented but lazy, and last year's team was just a bunch of factory workers and lunch pail guys. We lost 2 A-A level players, and yet here we are hearing how this team has no heart. I don't know if this year's team can make a run in the Big 12 Tourney. I don't know if they can make an Elite 8 or Final Four run with their size and free throw shooting difficulties. But I do know that just like last year's 11-7 conference team, this year's squad is difficult as hell to prepare for on short notice. Which may be why they struggle a bit during the season when you have to play the same guys, and the same coaches with 3, 4, or 5 games to prepare. Flame away angry people. I'm looking forward to next week and beyond.
The "BIGGER" picture is that no matter how much the sun is shining, people like you will be thinking only about how dark it is on the other side of the planet. This is the biggest win of the season, and the biggest comeback victory by this team and in ISU history, and they don't have that same "moxy" as last year's team?
I am so sick of all the negative Nellies on this board. For the record, our conference record is essentially the same last year's team's and, if we win at TCU, our record over the last three games of the conference season will be 2-1 vs. 1-2. Also, this year's team beat KU at home and WVU on the road, something last year's team failed to do. And this year's team has overcome big deficits with last night's game being a much bigger deficit than last year's home finale vs. OK-State and, I would argue, this year's OK team is much better than last year's OK-State team which we had to go into overtime to squeak out a win. Also, we overcame Baylor's big lead on the road and, but for a failure to call a push off, we would have won.
Also, last year's team was blown out at WVU by about 25 points, while this year's team's biggest loss was 13 points at KU, almost the same as the 11 point loss there last year.
See how easy it is to find as many, if not more, positives as negatives? Does posting onlly negative comments make you feel good when the team loses so you can point to your self-perceive brilliance as a basketball "guru?" You are probably one of those people who hides under a rock when the team doesn't live down to your negative predictions, only to crawl out on those occasions when the team falters. For your information, your opinion is in the small minority of Cyclone lovers, who have supported ISU teams through years of ups and downs. Just because you yell the loudest, doesn't mean there aren't more reasoned voices who feel the total opposite.
I disagree! I think last year's team was more of a TEAM! They seemed to have all the parts figured out and everyone knew their role. We shouldn't be needing half time speeches to get going in march! It's like this year's team doesn't have the same fire under their butts. Or maybe there is just higher expectations this year that haven't been lived up to YET (regular season title). At least there's still time to chase NCAA dreams. .... full disclosure: NOT a bandwagon fan! Been going to games since I was 4
Well yeah, but did they have to throw in a potential starter mid-season to develop chemistry both offensively and defensively??
Would you rather have Baylor? We'll have to go through one of them if we want to win the whole thing, and I'd rather it be Oklahoma than Baylor. If there was some way to get West Virginia again then I'd be pretty happy.
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Yes, winning the lottery was great! But aren't we all missing the BIGGER picture here? We are all going to DIE!!!!!!!!!!! :skeptical:
Hell yes I want Baylor. They're the only conference team we haven't beat this year. And I don't think they're really any better than we are so I want them again.
Whoa there. Love the passion...and agree on comparing this year to last year. They are very similar years. However, I think a lot of the negativity is coming from people who expected more this year. I know, I know...how can you lose Ejim and Kane and expect more...I get it. But put me in the camp of those that did. I thought this would be the year we would take the next step and either win the Big 12 or at least tie for the regular season. I thought we would be more consistent. I thought Georges would be more dynamic and dominant than how he has been most of the year (obviously last night, he was huge). And as a lifelong Cyclone fan (21 years since my first game in Hilton), I think it's good that we are expecting more and frustrating when it doesn't pan out. This is still a good team, yes. We could still make it to the Final Four and win the Big 12 Tournament. I just really thought we would have the talent to be a Top 5 team and dominate most opponents. Obviously that isn't the case and I think that is part of the frustration and negativity.
And when it became apparent that the B12 was going to be by far the toughest conference in America did you re-evaluate your expectations like a sane person would? And Top 5 talent? Holy crap prepare to be disappointed when I tell you that Duke, KU, UK, and AZ still exist in the world of CBB collecting one and dones and top 50 HS talent like baseball cards leaving one spot open in the top 5 talent-wise.
To defend those who expected more, including myself, this team is deeper and has more talent across the board. Edozie was getting significant minutes at this time last season, but because of better players isn't seeing anything besides garbage time. A guy who some mock drafts had on their boards only played eight minutes last night. So I'd say expecting more out of this team than last year's was more than fair.
No one is saying expecting more was wrong. But not being able to accept and move on from expectations in to reality is what is so grating around here. When I expect to hit the green light at the cluster intersection but I get the yellow and have to stop I don't go drive my car in to the stop light. I'll just roll my eyes and say "wtf" and realize it's not that b of a fd and reality is somewhere in the middle but much more on the high side than the low side of the middle.
By my count CF has these posters:
Negative Nellie
Debbie Downer
Suzie Sour Grapes
Glass-Half-Empty Gladys
Manic Mike
Who am I missing?
