The Jerry Kill Comparison

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ISU SOS 10

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We can all take pride in that once the season is over on December 3rd while we listen to, and watch, 70 football teams playing post-season games on TV and getting extra practice time and selling the experience to recruits.

SOS never sent anyone to a bowl game. We probably should win some games and look to our step-brothers to the east with some humble admiration and much jealousy. And yeah, the hawks suck.
 

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We can all take pride in that once the season is over on December 3rd while we listen to, and watch, 70 football teams playing post-season games on TV and getting extra practice time and selling the experience to recruits.

SOS never sent anyone to a bowl game. We probably should win some games and look to our step-brothers to the east with some humble admiration and much jealousy. And yeah, the hawks suck.

What does this even mean?

That is like driving your Toyota Yaris hatchback down the street next to the guy in the Porsche 911 and racing him. When you lose, the guy in the passenger seat turns to you and says "I know you have a Yaris and he has a 911, but complaining about Strength of Vehicle never won anybody a race! Do better!"
 

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Tom Herman is a freaking genius! So smart. So much gravitas. Hahaha. Yeah, he was smart like Chizik was smart to gtfoa. He can coach really good for superior talent....good for him.

After witnessing this non-crowd in their billion dollar stadium they built from the ground up, I just can't believe what a poor decision that was to build. What a waste. Share the dome or build a smaller, more optimally sized dome for multi-purpose for that arctic metropolis. Oh well, even accounting for vote fraud, Minnesotans are an odd lot.
 

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Exactly what I like about Kills teams. Punched in the mouth, more often than not they respond instead of folding like a lawn chair

Kind of like Iowa State did twice against Texas this year? They responded. Or like they did when Iowa was ahead in the game this year? Or when Kansas State was ahead 17-0 in the game this year? Or when Toledo had the lead in the 1st half of the game this year?

You can bash Iowa State under Rhoads for many reasons, but some of the **** you people make up is such utter ********.
 

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They just said Kill is 24-23 in his 4th year at Minnesota.

Rhoads was 24-25 toward the end of his 4th year too. Obviously the wheels have fallen off since then, so I am not necessarily defending Rhoads as much as saying that Kill is being overrated in this thread.

Kill is basically exactly where Rhoads was toward the end of 2012, just with a much, much softer schedule.
I agree that a big test will be if Kill is able to keep the program where it is. I though pretty highly of Rhoads exactly 2 years ago. I was shocked how quickly he brought us down. Kill still needs a few more years before we can really judge, but so far he is looking like he is getting the job done there.
 

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They just said Kill is 24-23 in his 4th year at Minnesota.

Rhoads was 24-25 toward the end of his 4th year too. Obviously the wheels have fallen off since then, so I am not necessarily defending Rhoads as much as saying that Kill is being overrated in this thread.

Kill is basically exactly where Rhoads was toward the end of 2012, just with a much, much softer schedule.

Kill has beaten 1 out of 11 ranked teams he has played at Minnesota. We all know that Rhoads has beaten more ranked teams than that and he sure as hell has had to play more ranked teams than 11.
 

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Kill has beaten 1 out of 11 ranked teams he has played at Minnesota. We all know that Rhoads has beaten more ranked teams than that and he sure as hell has had to play more ranked teams than 11.
Paul has had more opportunities to beat ranked teams. Also, Kill hasn't had a chance to beat teams that start the year ranked but fail to become bowl eligible. Next few years will tell if Kill is building something. I thought Rhoads was 2 years ago, so who knows. We could be wrong.
 

Cyballzz

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Kill has beaten 1 out of 11 ranked teams he has played at Minnesota. We all know that Rhoads has beaten more ranked teams than that and he sure as hell has had to play more ranked teams than 11.

Kill wasn't even coaching when they beat Nebraska last year. His D Coordinator has more wins over ranked teams as head coach.
 

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We can all take pride in that once the season is over on December 3rd while we listen to, and watch, 70 football teams playing post-season games on TV and getting extra practice time and selling the experience to recruits.

SOS never sent anyone to a bowl game. We probably should win some games and look to our step-brothers to the east with some humble admiration and much jealousy. And yeah, the hawks suck.

that's all great. except all i was doing was correcting a moron troll who said ISU and Iowa had almost = SOS this year.

carry on...
 

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Paul has had more opportunities to beat ranked teams. Also, Kill hasn't had a chance to beat teams that start the year ranked but fail to become bowl eligible. Next few years will tell if Kill is building something. I thought Rhoads was 2 years ago, so who knows. We could be wrong.

According to ESPN, CPR was 4-19 against ranked teams prior to this season. 0-4 this year drops him to 4-23 for a win percentage of 0.148

Kill's record of 1-12 (after today's loss against OSU) is a win percentage of 0.077
 

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Conference history has what bearing on the current state of the big ten? The big ten is extremely soft these days. Pretty much anyone familiar with college football agrees on that. and program history has nothing to do with ISU being better than Iowa THIS YEAR.

By your logic, Minnesota is 100x the football program that Iowa is and is a national power. After all, they've won 7 National Championships.

You're either making a concerted effort to troll or you're 13. I can't put my finger on exactly which quite yet.
History has everything to do with it. Shows who is the stonger conference over time, not just right now. Also the Big 10 is ranked 4th as of today, SEC- Big 12 - Pac 12 - Big 10 - ACC, with not much for points separating the Big 12 and Big 10.
Minn. has only won 6, not 7 and yes history wise they have the better program and they have a 20 game lead on us in head to head.
There is no way ISU is better right now. Even announcers today were asking how did IOWA lose to ISU and Maryland. Only in the eyes of isu does anyone think they are better. IOWA 7-3 and ISU 2-7.... lmao if you think they are better.
 

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History has everything to do with it. Shows who is the stonger conference over time, not just right now. Also the Big 10 is ranked 4th as of today, SEC- Big 12 - Pac 12 - Big 10 - ACC, with not much for points separating the Big 12 and Big 10.
Minn. has only won 6, not 7 and yes history wise they have the better program and they have a 20 game lead on us in head to head.
There is no way ISU is better right now. Even announcers today were asking how did IOWA lose to ISU and Maryland. Only in the eyes of isu does anyone think they are better. IOWA 7-3 and ISU 2-7.... lmao if you think they are better.

Neither ISU or Iowa is worth a damn this year, if you can't see that you are a dumb ****.
 

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Also the Big 10 is ranked 4th as of today, SEC- Big 12 - Pac 12 - Big 10 - ACC, with not much for points separating the Big 12 and Big 10.

Every rational observer of college football knows that there is an enormous gulf within the Power Five separating the top three conferences from the bottom two.