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A lot of the "that's not targeting" folks on here exposed with their bias to always agree with refs on everything. That's 100% no doubt targeting. Leading with helmet, primary contact is helmet to helmet, defenseless runner...it checks every box.

If they really didn't even review this, that's very crooked. We better not get another targeting call on us the rest of the season after the **** we've dealt with this year. While we're at it we need at least 3-4 "tackling into the ground penalties" to even out that bull****.
Im still waiting on an unnecessary roughness when one of our guys gets knocked off their route like Reeder got vs Baylor.
 

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A lot of the "that's not targeting" folks on here exposed with their bias to always agree with refs on everything. That's 100% no doubt targeting. Leading with helmet, primary contact is helmet to helmet, defenseless runner...it checks every box.

If they really didn't even review this, that's very crooked. We better not get another targeting call on us the rest of the season after the **** we've dealt with this year. While we're at it we need at least 3-4 "tackling into the ground penalties" to even out that bull****.
Refs didn't want to go against a home texa$ crowd, eject a guy with 2 minutes to play and force him to miss the first half of the next game, nor extend a drive. Just spineless. I bet ISU gets that call in quarters 1-3 but because it is the end of the game, they swallowed their whistle.
 
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Refs didn't want to go against a home texa$ crowd, eject a guy with 2 minutes to play and force him to miss the first half of the next game, nor extend a drive. Just spineless. I bet ISU gets that call in quarters 1-3 but because it is the end of the game, they swallowed their whistle.

I can live with the fumble call because it's so close, but if he doesn't launch himself into Dekkers head with his helmet, Dekkers very possibly doesn't drop the ball. This **** is ridiculous.

It won't solve all problems but we need to either go back to old rules or put flags on the QBs and not let them run for positive yards.

This nonsense where ISU isn't allowed to touch the ground when we tackle but every other team is has got to go.
 

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Im still waiting on an unnecessary roughness when one of our guys gets knocked off their route like Reeder got vs Baylor.

Or another team to not be allowed to touch the ground on a clean tackle. This "driving them into the ground" on normal tackles is the most subjective and stupid call. I guess coach a team not to wrap up and see how good your defense is.
 
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Or another team to not be allowed to touch the ground on a clean tackle. This "driving them into the ground" on normal tackles is the most subjective and stupid call. I guess coach a team not to wrap up and see how good your defense is.
I would also like to see a distribution of how often it is called in different stages of the game. Poor consistency is what drives me nuts, it is subjective based on how far in the game it is and how close the game is.
 

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I would also like to see a distribution of how often it is called in different stages of the game. Poor consistency is what drives me nuts, it is subjective based on how far in the game it is and how close the game is.

Some people thought the Baylor stuff was because we got the ball first and they wanted to set a tone. Ah...no. They had possessions in between our ridiculous calls. They made normal tackles in those possessions that could've been flagged for the same garbage and were not.
 
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Have we heard anything publicly from Pollard? Kind of seems like he’s reached the point where he just accepts it. This stuff obviously isn’t ending with his action plan of doing nothing , maybe try going nuclear and just accepting the fines instead?
 

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Have we heard anything publicly from Pollard? Kind of seems like he’s reached the point where he just accepts it. This stuff obviously isn’t ending with his action plan of doing nothing , maybe try going nuclear and just accepting the fines instead?

I would hope when OUT leaves there’s a chance to start fresh.
 
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I can live with the fumble call because it's so close, but if he doesn't launch himself into Dekkers head with his helmet, Dekkers very possibly doesn't drop the ball. This **** is ridiculous.

It won't solve all problems but we need to either go back to old rules or put flags on the QBs and not let them run for positive yards.

This nonsense where ISU isn't allowed to touch the ground when we tackle but every other team is has got to go.
Honest question… do you really think there is an agenda to target Iowa State? Just curious because that’s what I see insinuated a lot.
 
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Honest question… do you really think there is an agenda to target Iowa State? Just curious because that’s what I see insinuated a lot.
There most likely isn't, but when the extremely ****** calls that blow up in the media in the conference happen to one team consistently then I'm not sure what everyone is supposed to think either

What I actually think happens is that the Big 12 generally doesn't care about our games so we get the **** refs, and well, the good refs for the Big 12 are also **** as well so we get really, really, really ****** refs. That doesn't really explain why we're the only ones who seem to get **** calls that end our games consistently though
 

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There most likely isn't, but when the extremely ****** calls that blow up in the media in the conference happen to one team consistently then I'm not sure what everyone is supposed to think either

What I actually think happens is that the Big 12 generally doesn't care about our games so we get the **** refs, and well, the good refs for the Big 12 are also **** as well so we get really, really, really ****** refs. That doesn't really explain why we're the only ones who seem to get **** calls that end our games consistently though
Very valid. Always interested to hear because I don’t know there’s a legit reason for the disparity other than all refs suck.
 
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That's 1000000% targeting. No idea if officials had that view or not.

All we know is that they chose not to review it.

I was kind of neutral on this call thinking the targeting and the fumble were close. With this view the targeting is not close at all. If targeting has ever been called once, this is targeting. The fumble probably has to be whatever call on field was.
In this specific case - occurrence during same play ... I guess what puzzles me is even if potential targeting wasn't noticed in real-time, they spent like 4 minutes reviewing the fumble (which, after viewing it a couple of times, had to stand as called, regardless) - but nobody in booth was able to notice there could've been targeting? Are they not allowed to even consider it?

I'm not even bothered if they ruled it a target or not (if it was reviewed and not called, we'd be having a separate rant) but from what I gather there was no discussion/effort to even consider reviewing the hit.

When can they review it and when not?
 
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Im still waiting on an unnecessary roughness when one of our guys gets knocked off their route like Reeder got vs Baylor.
Not one of our games, but the worst example of this occurred last night in the Purdue-Nebraska game. Purdue had 4th and 1 at midfield with about 3 min left on the clock. Purdue QB dropped to pass and realized that there were no available receivers. Nebraska knocked down all 5 eligible receivers with either tackles or wipeout body blocks. No flags but the QB saved the game by scrambling for 3 yards.
 

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Honest question… do you really think there is an agenda to target Iowa State? Just curious because that’s what I see insinuated a lot.

Yesterday lack of targeting could’ve been luck, but if so we’re due for some good luck. It’s inexcusable if they didn’t review it.

First half of Baylor couldn’t have possibly been luck. It was two completely different sets of rules for the two teams for a whole half. No idea what the motivation or cause but that’s not just luck.
 

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Not one of our games, but the worst example of this occurred last night in the Purdue-Nebraska game. Purdue had 4th and 1 at midfield with about 3 min left on the clock. Purdue QB dropped to pass and realized that there were no available receivers. Nebraska knocked down all 5 eligible receivers with either tackles or wipeout body blocks. No flags but the QB saved the game by scrambling for 3 yards.
Interesting that you saw this too. The one that stood out to me was Charlie Jones. He ran a shallow crossing route and and a Nebraska linebacker just grabbed him and wrestled him to the ground. Jones got hurt on the play. It shocked me that not one official threw a flag.