*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

[HFCS]

BCS says bids will include 4-team playoffs only - ESPN

Bottom of this story strongly suggests there will be no more AQ vs. Non-AQ conference.

Is coast to coast Big East any sort of decent idea now? Probably not.

This is the best change to happen with all this shifting in the past few years. Whether you have 4, 8 or 10 spots...shoehorning unranked/low ranked Big East and ACC teams into them was the stupidest part of the system when there were top 10 to top 15 teams from non-AQ conferences very regularly.

4 of the 6 AQ leagues nearly always deserved their AQ, 2 of them were destroying AQ the system because their champion would often be worse than WAC, MWC and CUSA champions.

 

[hawkfan]

With the elimination of AQ status, the Big East is basically going to become a mid major in 2014 - the respectable schools left in that conference should try & get out ASAP.

 

[HFCS]

With the elimination of AQ status, the Big East is basically going to become a mid major in 2014 - the respectable schools left in that conference should try & get out ASAP.

For Boise State, SDSU, Houston, SMU and UCF they now face a serious possibility of the MWC/CUSA alliance being a better football situation, and certainly the more logistically friendly one. Memphis probably still made a good move no matter what since they're primarily basketball and they're kind of centrally located geographically. The only way it backfires on Memphis is if there's a rush back to MWC/CUSA and they somehow get left out.

UConn/Rutgers/Louisville/USF have to be praying that there is some shifting and expanding left from within the Big12/ACC if they want to keep up in football. I don't see the Big Ten in any rush barring ND and I think the SEC knows that the only expansion worth it to them was a major score into Texas which they already got.

I'm sure the ACC wants to hold onto its football schools, but UConn fits better with ACC schools than FSU, Georgia Tech and Clemson do. If 2 of those ACC teams (or 3 and Louisville) jump to the Big 12, there's a chance the ACC makes the move on at least UConn/Rutgers.

There's no guarantee an ACC champ gets a top game anymore either, and they have sent unranked teams to the stupid BCS system in the past, no idea why they get less flack for it than the Big East. So the idea that an FSU benefits from playing in an easy football conference has lost some merit. Also the way FSU and the ACC's downward trend have gone together suggests they don't benefit from playing in an easy league.

 

[cyman05]

With the elimination of AQ status, the Big East is basically going to become a mid major in 2014 - the respectable schools left in that conference should try & get out ASAP.

Yeah, if you're in the Big East and you have a chance to move up you take it.

But if you're someone like SMU and your options are either C-USA and $2 million in TV revenue, or the Big East with more TV exposure, more competitive games in FB and BB, and an extra $10-12 million in TV revenue, why would you go back to C-USA?

 

[isuno1fan]

Boise, SDSU, etc will stay in the Big East IMO because they'll still get a much larger payday.

 

[Al_4_State]

There's no guarantee an ACC champ gets a top game anymore either, and they have sent unranked teams to the stupid BCS system in the past, no idea why they get less flack for it than the Big East. So the idea that an FSU benefits from playing in an easy football conference has lost some merit. Also the way FSU and the ACC's downward trend have gone together suggests they don't benefit from playing in an easy league.

I have never understood this either. The Big East, in all of its incarnations has been FAR more successful in the BCS than the ACC. The ACC has won 1 BCS game in the past 12 years. Ridiculous. They've been the worst BCS conference in America for a decade, and that's why you aren't going to see the clear #2 conference dissolve while the worst one survives.

 

[Let's Go State]

With no AQ - there needs to be a rule that the 'final four' all come from different conferences.

 

[Cydwinder]

With no AQ - there needs to be a rule that the 'final four' all come from different conferences.

But everyone knows the top 4 and sometimes even 5 teams in the nation are in the SEC every single year.

 

[ricochet]

With no AQ - there needs to be a rule that the 'final four' all come from different conferences.

What, you don't want 2 SEC schools and 2 Big 10 schools every year?

 

[snowcraig2.0]

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Per Mike Price, UTEP will be leaving CUSA for MWC.... http://fb.me/1Au1p5I8P

 

[CYCLNST8]

I think undefeated programs should get an automatic birth in the "top four," then seed the schools by BCS rank. #1 #2 get home games at the end of the regular season to determine the championship game. Fire away.

 

[Let's Go State]

What, you don't want 2 SEC schools and 2 Big 10 schools every year?

Correct.

Just wait. There will be three teams one from the SEC some year that will be totally media driven.

 

[Let's Go State]

I think undefeated programs should get an automatic birth in the "top four," then seed the schools by BCS rank. #1 #2 get home games at the end of the regular season to determine the championship game. Fire away.

You'll just give it to a Houston.....? I'm cool with it if it's a rule because the media scott and Slive would squirm.

 

[JohnnyFive]

Correct.

Just wait. There will be three teams one from the SEC some year that will be totally media driven.

What happens when LSU-Florida, Bama-Ohio State makes up the final four 10 years from now? Could happen. LSU, Bama, Arkansas were 1-2-3 at one point this season.

If that happens, ESPN's reps would knock themselves unconscious patting themselves on the back.

 

[Let's Go State]

ATM will be jar fillin fools!

 

[jbhtexas]

With no AQ - there needs to be a rule that the 'final four' all come from different conferences.

No way this will ever happen. Prior to this, Slive was already lobbying for two AQ's for the SEC. The Big 12, Big Ten, and SEC will never support such a thing, since they have legit chances of having two teams in the playoff. The "lesser" conferences (MWC, CUSA, etc.) will not support it either because they would be severely hampering themselves if they ever decide to give that 20-team FB alliance/conference thingy a try again in the future.

 

[HoopsTournament]

The MWC/CUSA merger is dead. They may do a television and scheduling alliance, but won't be a single conference.

 

[cykadelic2]

What happens when LSU-Florida, Bama-Ohio State makes up the final four 10 years from now? Could happen. LSU, Bama, Arkansas were 1-2-3 at one point this season.

If that happens, ESPN's reps would knock themselves unconscious patting themselves on the back.

ESPN would dread that situation. CFB is still primarily a regional sport and it was reflected in the lousy national TV ratings for the Bama-LSU title game.

If ESPN has a say in matters, they will not want two teams from the same conference in the Final Four.

 

[CYKOFAN]

I can add to the FSU and Clemson rumors. I was on a flight last night and sat by a West Virginia fan. He said he knows somebody in their athletic department who told him that Clemson and FSU will likely join the Big 12 in the next few months. Take it for what it's worth, but there seems to be something going on with them.

 

[enisthemenace]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with this girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.