*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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Big 10 already has Iowa.
They could invite KU\MU if they wanted and get the same benefit.
No, I re-read your post and I really don't get the argument. I'm not trying to be a smart ***, but why has this approach not held conferences together in the past. There have been many that disappeared and lots of schools have ended up in inferior conferences because of similar realignments.
Look at SMU, Houston, etc.
I'm sure those schools made financial decisions based on the SWC and then all of a sudden, UT and others bailed.
K-State will cling on to Kansas and Iowa State would attempt to cling on to Iowa. Big 10 doesn't want Pitt at all, and definitely not Syracuse. I could see them going after Notre Dame and West Virginia instead of K-State and I-State.
'cling to iowa'? If iowa werent a part of the big 10 and the big 10 wanted them then maybe. They already have iowa, and iowa isnt going to threaten to leave for us. Hell, if they did the big 10 would say 'well, have fun with that', and theyd be in the same boat as us.
We would try to cling to them, Iowa wouldn't care, but we would try to make a ruckus.
Exactly. The Big 10 already has everything they need from the state of Iowa, and the UofI has no leverage with them, and even if they did, they likely wouldn't use it for us.
ISU to B1G is the crack pipe dream of all crack pipe dreams. That is the conference that showed everyone else that it is now all about money...and all of a sudden they will take a net revenue loser for them like ISU? You must be thinking they think more about academic research money than I think they do.
Guess I'm not gonna convince anyone with my dream of going to the Big 10. I'll just sit back and enjoy the ride then... 
In fact, Culver even tried to position that last year. Pretty sure the very limited response was 'you're ******* kidding, right?'
Guess I'm not gonna convince anyone with my dream of going to the Big 10. I'll just sit back and enjoy the ride then...
We'd all take it in a second, it just isnt happening.
The whole point is this. Sure there is verbiage that says the TV deal is off if the conference disbands and that Fox/ESPN or whomever doesn't owe the conference or it's schools any money. Or if one team wants to leave they pay exit fees etc. But if we allowed a clause that says 6 schools can leave and force the disbanding of the conference, and the remaining 4 schools can not sue for projected lost income from previously signed contracts with said 6 schools we have some really stupid people negotiating for us.
The reason it hasn't worked in the past is that it wasn't an arms race about trying to get the biggest TV contracts etc. Todays college football world has changed tons since 94 when UT announced they were leaving the SWC. The BCS changed all of this and now it is one big money game and making sure you get paid.
This has me very puzzled as well. For as much information is out there on the message boards, and other sports pages for that matter, there has been nothing about this on ESPN until today, and even then, just a little quip. I'm guessing they're so deep in bed with Texas on the TV deal that they're trying to stay out of it.
that is what I am saying. It IS all about money. It used to be about college football, and fans, and rivalries, and regional interests. Then the Big10 network came along. Then the Big10 expanded. Now it is just the dominos.
Not if the B1G steals Rutgers, or if the SEC steals FSU, leading the ACC stealing WVU or USF. If SEC -> 14 or 16, all the puzzle will reshuffle among Big XII, ACC, and BE.
I am in the minority but I think Iowa would come to bat for us if no other BCS offer came to fruition. Would it help or work I dont know and neither does anyone on here. Iowa officials dont speak for the fans who couldn't care less what happens to us. The natural rivalries would easily exist for us in the Big10. I know its a HUGE stretch but I dont dismiss it as quickly as others do. Big East schools such as Syracuse/Rutgers/ Pitt or whoever may bring more TV sets but that part of the country is Pro sports not real big college fans. So it might not be that big of a gain. ISU brings no more TV sets in Iowa I know but at some point it becomes irrelavant. Just a thought.
I think their silence is a pretty clear indicator that ATM is gone and of how deep they are in bed with Texas and that they don't want all the negative pub it will bring so they are kid gloving this thing for now.
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