*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

[ChrisMWilliams]

Texas and the Pac-12: It’s not really about The Longhorn Network | College Hotline

 

[KneeGusto]

Go Baylor! Raise a stink!

Show the country how stupid all this nonsense is.

 

[jbhtexas]

Copy/Paste from the other thread?

Brings back memories of the USENET days, when one could crosspost to a bunch of forums with a just a few keystrokes...

 

[BCClone]

Beebee must have said he had other teams and everyone believed OU and UT when they said they were committed. They agreed at that point, but now with things changing, they do not.

 

[helechopper]

If the North does have other offers, maybe we still make the move. The North schools collapse the Big 12. That would serve all of the state of Texas right for F'ing this whole thing up.

Haha! That would be brilliant. I'd hate to pay any exit fees if we had to, but I'd love to see this happen. I'm tired of being treated like a redheaded stepchild. (no offense to redheaded step children)

 

[NobodyBeatsCy]

Who could guess that the Big XII is too psychologically damaged to stay together and too psychologically damaged to fall apart? Definition of purgatory, IMHO

 

[hawkfan]

Texas and the Pac-12: It’s not really about The Longhorn Network | College Hotline

Very interesting article. The irony is, even if they joined the ACC, they'd have to give up the LHN anyway - the ACC is an equal revenue sharing conference. I don't think the ACC would be willing to accommodate the LHN at the cost of destabilizing their conference.

 

[Boji]

Who could guess that the Big XII is too psychologically damaged to stay together and too psychologically damaged to fall apart? Definition of purgatory, IMHO

It's like Dante's seventh ring in Hell.

 

[CycloneErik]

The NeverEnding Story writers are jealous at the way this story drags out.

 

[cykadelic2]

Texas and the Pac-12: It’s not really about The Longhorn Network | College Hotline

After reading that column and given BU's refusal to waive litigation on the SEC, you kind of wonder if UT is quietly supporting BU's refusal in UT's last-ditch attempt to keep the B12 together.

 

[cykadelic2]

Very interesting article. The irony is, even if they joined the ACC, they'd have to give up the LHN anyway - the ACC is an equal revenue sharing conference. I don't think the ACC would be willing to accommodate the LHN at the cost of destabilizing their conference.

Keep in mind that ESPN owns all of the ACC's TV rights as well as LHN.

 

[Clonefan94]

People say that about ISU as well. I'm hoping ISU will end up in a good (profitable) conference situation when all is said and done with this realignment fiasco.

People may say that, but as with many things, most people don't check their facts. Being a founding memeber of the Conference, imo, gave us all the right to belong, and this includes the time long before the Texas schools came in.

 

[cyfanatic]

People may say that, but as with many things, most people don't check their facts. Being a founding memeber of the Conference, imo, gave us all the right to belong, and this includes the time long before the Texas schools came in.

I respect your position...but I doubt the power-players care much about whether or not a school was one of the founding institutions. Not when it comes to dollars...

 

[WhitUp]

If A&M goes to SEC and Oky and Oky state go to pac-12. Why not just merge the remaining big 12 with the Big East. If the Big East is willing to take Missouri/ISU/KSU/Kansas Why wouldn't they be willing to take Tech/Baylor/Texas also. You could even just basically have the divisions big east and big 12 plus tcu

big east
Louisville
Uconn
Rutgers
Pitt
Syracuse
W.Virginia
S.Florida
Cincinnati

old big 12 division
Texas
Texas Tech
ISU
Kansas
Missouri
Kansas State
Baylor
TCU

Maybe keep this as football only scenario, keeping the basketball big east teams happy.

 

[WaverlyCy]

I respect your position...but I doubt the power-players care much about whether or not a school was one of the founding institutions. Not when it comes to dollars...

Sorry if this has already been posted on this epic thread... thought this link to Baylor's website was interesting:

Baylor University || Baylor Nation || Don't Mess With Texas Football

 

[drednot57]

Texas and the Pac-12: It’s not really about The Longhorn Network | College Hotline

If UT decides to convert the LHN to some sort of Big12 Net ( call it the Longhorn/Big12 Network), I wonder how things would play out? Would it come down to actual percentage split of air time between the schools with UT still getting a plurality of time? Perhaps something along these lines:

UT -- 30%
OU -- 25%
OSU -- 15%
MU -- 15%
The remaining 5 -- 25% (5% each)
​

Just a contemplation of how LH/B12 airtime could be split with the network money split along those lines as well.

 

[Pseudonym]

If UT decides to convert the LHN to some sort of Big12 Net ( call it the Longhorn/Big12 Network), I wonder how things would play out? Would it come down to actual percentage split of air time between the schools with UT still getting a plurality of time? Perhaps something along these lines:

UT -- 30%
OU -- 25%
OSU -- 15%
MU -- 15%
The remaining 5 -- 25% (5% each)
​

Just a contemplation of how LH/B12 airtime could be split with the network money split along those lines as well.

ISU would be ******** to agree to that.

 

[CycloneErik]

If UT decides to convert the LHN to some sort of Big12 Net ( call it the Longhorn/Big12 Network), I wonder how things would play out? Would it come down to actual percentage split of air time between the schools with UT still getting a plurality of time? Perhaps something along these lines:

UT -- 30%
OU -- 25%
OSU -- 15%
MU -- 15%
The remaining 5 -- 25% (5% each)
​

Just a contemplation of how LH/B12 airtime could be split with the network money split along those lines as well.

I know this is just your own idea, but even the notion that the Big 12 could ever even conceivably think of a gesture like that makes me hate this conference even more.

 

[cycloneworld]

Baylor may be the one publically not waiving their right to sue but who knows if there are others now. I would bet that all schools waived the right a few weeks ago when the remaining 9 were all tightly "committed" to each other. And now that they aren't, it only makes sense that teams are backing out of their no-sue agreement.

I don't think this means ISU has a safe landing spot because the best spot for us (revenue-wise) right now is the Big 12.

 

[drednot57]

I know this is just your own idea, but even the notion that the Big 12 could ever even conceivably think of a gesture like that makes me hate this conference even more.

Perhaps ESPN would dual track the LHN with a Big12 Net, with the Big12 Net money to be evenly split among the other eight schools. Gotta do something to placate OU, OSU and MU to keep the Big12 alive. If the issue is really the LHN, then a conference network along side the LHN seems to be a good solution. That $300M would have to be split between the two networks in some sort of agreeable fashion.