*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

[isuno1fan]

The big east folding would put all the power in the Big 12's hands, all they have to do is invite Louisville, TCU & either WVU, BYU or Cinci. Their bargaining power would be minimal. We can restructure the Big 12 and nobody would have to jump on this stupid superconference bandwagon. Like said above, with those teams gone, the Big Easy is over.

I agree...the wildcard is OU and UT coming to their senses!

 

[HFCS]

The big east folding would put all the power in the Big 12's hands, all they have to do is invite Louisville, TCU & either WVU, BYU or Cinci. Their bargaining power would be minimal. We can restructure the Big 12 and nobody would have to jump on this stupid superconference bandwagon. Like said above, with those teams gone, the Big Easy is over.

It gives the 9 Big 12 Teams a chance to build something awesome.

But 3-4 of the nine teams will act like 7th grade girls and backstab the others.

 

[HFCS]

The Big 12 or Big East will survive. Let's hope the Big 12 hangs on. With the better contracts I think the Big 12 has the advantage. Best thing for Big East to do is divest the football teams and merge with Big 12. Smartest thing for them to do for the programs that have football. Big East could continue as a BB Conference.

Big East continuing as a solid basketball league also makes ND less likely to join the B1G. But I have no idea how that affects ISU and the Big 12 if it still exists.

 

[CloneSolo]

I know this is asking alot, but why can't rational heads at UT and OK prevail. This is actually lining up beautifully for them. If both choose to stay in the Big 12, and with the eminent demise of the BE they could cherry pick 3 teams (Louisville, Cinn, TCU) to go back to 12 and still have the easiest route to BCS games and NCs. I just don't see how that it is easier going to the PAC or wherever for UT. Someone please enlighten.

I know this logic fails from the start with the basis of rational heads....:unsure:

 

[HoopsTournament]

IF ESPN article about ACC targets of Texas, Kansas, Pitt and Syracuse come true, then the AAU options become very few for Big 10.

Assuming that SEC and PAC 10 schools wouldn't go to Big 10 and ACC's no exit penalty of $20M and expansion to 16 prohibits any of them from moving and A&M going to SEC, that would leave the following schools - Rutgers, Missouri and ISU. We would become a much more valuable option for the Big 10 at that point. If and when Big 10 would want to go 16, add ND to those 3 schools and you have your Big 1(6).

Here are AAU schools currently in BCS conferences:


MEMBER INSTITUTIONS AND YEARS OF ADMISSION*

ACC
Duke University (1938)
Georgia Institute of Technology (2010)
University of Maryland, College Park (1969)
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (1922)
University of Virginia (1904)

BIG TEN
Indiana University (1909)
Michigan State University (1964)
Northwestern University (1917)
The Ohio State University (1916)
The Pennsylvania State University (1958)
Purdue University (1958)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1908)
The University of Iowa (1909)
University of Michigan (1900)
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities (1908)
The University of Wisconsin-Madison (1900)

PAC 12
Stanford University (1900)
The University of Arizona (1985)
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
University of California, Los Angeles (1974)
University of Colorado at Boulder (1966)
University of Oregon (1969)
University of Southern California (1969)
University of Washington (1950)

SEC
University of Florida (1985)
Vanderbilt University (1950)

BIG 12
Iowa State University (1958)
Texas A&M University (2001)
The University of Kansas (1909)
University of Missouri-Columbia (1908)
The University of Texas at Austin (1929)

BIG EAST
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (1989)
University of Pittsburgh (1974)

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

This is off topic, but I posted in the other thread that I was listening to Mike and Mike or DP and a national writer was interviewed that had inside sources at Notre Dame. He said ND will never join the BIG. If ND joins a conference it would be the Pac to further their national exposure and join their arch rival USC.

 

[HoopsTournament]

University of Chicago is already in the Big 10.

I know, but I meant for athletic competition.

 

[HFCS]

I know this is asking alot, but why can't rational heads at UT and OK prevail. This is actually lining up beautifully for them. If both choose to stay in the Big 12, and with the eminent demise of the BE they could cherry pick 3 teams (Louisville, Cinn, TCU) to go back to 12 and still have the easiest route to BCS games and NCs. I just don't see how that it is easier going to the PAC or wherever for UT. Someone please enlighten.

I know this logic fails from the start with the basis of rational heads....:unsure:

Ohio is a populous state, I want to say it's something like 5th-7th in population?

They have one big football program. I think it's a lot more likely that Cincy could grow as a football name if Texas and Oklahoma are making regular trips to Ohio. It also adds a really solid recruiting state that's not crazy far from ISU.

Since they've been in the Big East, the Big East has had nothing close in terms of football quality that the current Big 12 has with half the teams being ranked.

 

[cyatheart]

If we had any leadership at all this would save the B12....raid the Big East leftovers like Lville, South Florida, Rutgers, whatever works get to 10 or 12

This should actually save the B12, not destroy it...but the B12 has horrible leadership and it is a ******* contest now

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

I wonder if ISU has contacted the BIG?

 

[CyForPresident]

This **** would never happen at Hogwarts.

 

[trajanJ]

I agree...the wildcard is OU and UT coming to their senses!

You're right. Both have to agree to stay and sign some big contract that keeps the conference alive for several years. We need both of them. If one of them goes this conference is done.

 

[im4cyclones]

You're right. Both have to agree to stay and sign some big contract that keeps the conference alive for several years. We need both of them. If one of them goes this conference is done.

Disagree. We need Texas, as much as it pains me. OU can leave and we would survive. UT goes and the conference dies.

 

[HoopsTournament]

From Fake Dan Bebee on Twitter:

“@DanBeebe: Direct Message to John Marinatto: I take it you won't be needing TCU, then?”

“@DanBeebe: Direct Message to John Marinatto: Also, DePaul just applied to the Big 12. Wtf. Anyway, thought someone other than the press should tell you”

 

[Arkansas Cyclone]

I wonder if ISU has contacted the BIG?

They'd be foolish not to at least put your 'resume' out there.

 

[ISUser]

I put this in the ISU to Big East thread, but I'll add it here too:

If I was still at ISU this would be me outside Jack Trice:

I think the Big East will fall apart when the Big 10 and SEC poach it to reach 16 schools. With no other place to go after the collapse of the Big 12, ISU is on the outside looking in at BCS eligibility.

And while I am ashamed to say this, I am so sick of this right now to the point where I may stop following NCAA football altogether. I'll be an ISU fan for life, but I am just so ****** off that I don't want anything to do with college football.

 

[HoopsTournament]

I put this in the ISU to Big East thread, but I'll add it here too:

If I was still at ISU this would be me outside Jack Trice:

I think the Big East will fall apart when the Big 10 and SEC poach it to reach 16 schools. With no other place to go after the collapse of the Big 12, ISU is on the outside looking in at BCS eligibility.

And while I am ashamed to say this, I am so sick of this right now to the point where I may stop following NCAA football altogether. I'll be an ISU fan for life, but I am just so ****** off that I don't want anything to do with college football.

And if the ACC takes enough AAU schools, then one of those "Big East" teams the Big 10 would take is ISU. Right now, the AAU options are down to ISU, Missouri, Texas, Kansas and Rutgers. BEST thing would be for any of these schools to go to one of the other 3 conferences.

 

[CloneAbuse]

I put this in the ISU to Big East thread, but I'll add it here too:

If I was still at ISU this would be me outside Jack Trice:


I think the Big East will fall apart when the Big 10 and SEC poach it to reach 16 schools. With no other place to go after the collapse of the Big 12, ISU is on the outside looking in at BCS eligibility.

And while I am ashamed to say this, I am so sick of this right now to the point where I may stop following NCAA football altogether. I'll be an ISU fan for life, but I am just so ****** off that I don't want anything to do with college football.

If we somehow are left out, I'll not contribute to the TV viewing college FB crowd. A step further my life will take on a new bent toward activism....lobbyying against the way cable/satellite providers force populations to carry the burden/expense of programming they're not interested in. This model is being driven by greed. The current model needs to go. If a conference/team wants a network, it should be subscription...don't assume TV footprint is yours en masse and book your $1.59/TV inside footprint. Then it can be about competition, rivalry, like it was meant to be.

 

[oldwiseman]

We are fine.... everybody chill out. Again, we beat our in state who was in a BCS bowl 2 yrs ago. UCONN who was in a BCS bowl last year. We won't be left out. We have been in the top conference for 100 years. Stop worrying.

 

[gocubs2118]

kbohls
More than half a dozen schools, most of them in Big 12, have approached Pac12 about membership.
17 Sep via web

I hope we are one of those schools.