Four 18 team conferences mean there are 8 more programs to split the money with. Those 8 extra teams will bring nothing to the TV contracts meaning that the rich schools would get less money. All decisions will be made to maximize revenue for the rich and powerful schools. In reality you could probably get the same TV contract money with four 12 team conferences if you got the right 48 teams.
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Four 18 team conferences mean there are 8 more programs to split the money with. Those 8 extra teams will bring nothing to the TV contracts meaning that the rich schools would get less money. All decisions will be made to maximize revenue for the rich and powerful schools. In reality you could probably get the same TV contract money with four 12 team conferences if you got the right 48 teams.
Which is why I think that ultimately 16 team super conferences are not going to happen.
Adding those 8 teams will save money by preventing the monstrous lawsuit that the 3 or 4 current BCS teams that get left out will bring against the 64 teams in super conferences.
There are plenty of current non-bcs teams out there that would bring allot to the right conference.
Could a move to the Pac-16 by OU, prompt Texas to call there friends ND. And would ND fearing super conferences decided they would rather join forces with Texas to create their own conference than join the B1G. Just a thought.
Not sure who would be in it. But the Texas Legislature isn't going to let Texas Tech be left behind we all know that, and while Baylor is a Private school they have many prominent politicians in TX. ND has old ties with BC. While this is far fetched and I don't think it would happen, everyone else is throwing out crazy scenarios so I might as well also.
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Not sure who would be in it. But the Texas Legislature isn't going to let Texas Tech be left behind we all know that, and while Baylor is a Private school they have many prominent politicians in TX. ND has old ties with BC. While this is far fetched and I don't think it would happen, everyone else is throwing out crazy scenarios so I might as well also.
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UT AD Deloss Dodds has said as much about joining w/ ND. We will have to wait and see as painful as this whole situation is for us.
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What precedent would there be for this lawsuit? There is no rule that prohibits any D1 school from playing in a BCS bowl or even the championship game. Why haven't the non Big 12 schools that were in the SW conference sued the BCS schools? In it's prime the SW conference was a BCS level conference. Even if a lawsuit was filed it would be tied up in court for years. How can you force ESPN pay the same for a game that 50,000 people tune into that they pay for a game that 5 million tune into? Can you mandate that Gameday give equal time to the ISU vs Baylor game that they give toTexas vs. Oklahoma?
B/C Congress, more than likely, will pull all exempt status from those schools forming the 64 team, 4 super-conference CFB league. By forming that league, those schools will have stopped behaving like not-for-profit entities and making them subject to taxation and regulation like all other for-profit businesses. By excluding a number of schools from participating from this venture will presumably open this new league to anti-trust action against it. If this new super-conference league doesn't include at least all current BCS schools, then this whole issue of super-conferences probably will be settled in court.
So you get a lawsuit. That's pretty ****** compensation for the demise of isu football, no matter what the settlement.
I don't think 4 x 16 = 64 is a given, and besides reasons already expressed, there are some other contrary precedents.
You have the present bowl system to contend with, the highly popular NCAA basketball tournament that expanded beyond 64, as well as older and more traditional teams like Iowa State that bring something to the table and some would say a lot except TV sets, and some fast growing and some enormous newer colleges in faster growing urban areas. Even if you look to professional sports as the model the leagues have expanded over the years.
If you forget institutions and specific facts and look at things in larger historical terms, what sucks about possibility of losing Texas, the state, is that it is obviously the largest and fastest growing state in the middle of the country, bar none. The possibility was/is there for ties that bind the giant mid-section together, instead of driving everything towards the coasts.
To say it has to be 64 and 4 x 16 smacks not only of a for-profit enterprise, which I am not necessarily against except it ought to be treated as such, but also a cartel. And not just any cartel, but given that many of these are ostensibly public institutions, a government created and officially sanctioned cartel even if just implicitly, more difficult to displace.
If it is going to be run like a business there may be business reasons for more than 64, if not right away, though I believe there are, then certainly in the future.
I have no idea what is going to happen.
You have the present bowl system to contend with, the highly popular NCAA basketball tournament that expanded beyond 64, as well as older and more traditional teams like Iowa State that bring something to the table and some would say a lot except TV sets, and some fast growing and some enormous newer colleges in faster growing urban areas. Even if you look to professional sports as the model the leagues have expanded over the years.
If you forget institutions and specific facts and look at things in larger historical terms, what sucks about possibility of losing Texas, the state, is that it is obviously the largest and fastest growing state in the middle of the country, bar none. The possibility was/is there for ties that bind the giant mid-section together, instead of driving everything towards the coasts.
To say it has to be 64 and 4 x 16 smacks not only of a for-profit enterprise, which I am not necessarily against except it ought to be treated as such, but also a cartel. And not just any cartel, but given that many of these are ostensibly public institutions, a government created and officially sanctioned cartel even if just implicitly, more difficult to displace.
If it is going to be run like a business there may be business reasons for more than 64, if not right away, though I believe there are, then certainly in the future.
I have no idea what is going to happen.
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ISU, Baylor, K State vs. the 64 richest, most powerful, politically connected Universities. I'm sure that would result in a quick and positive outcome for ISU.
I was wondering if all you prognosticators could predict whether I will get a raise next year or not. :wideeyed:
There was someone on here last night I'm pretty sure already knows. :smile:
Here is a question for you super conferists?
Let's assume that Big 12 folds and you are the AD. Which conference would you go to NEXT year? Which is the BEST and MOST realistic option left for ISU.
Let's assume that Big 12 folds and you are the AD. Which conference would you go to NEXT year? Which is the BEST and MOST realistic option left for ISU.
Big east. But, it isn't great, it is just all we have. And it wouldn't be a guarantee.
but isn't end of world either. i just prefer to let it play out instead of playing out all of the made-up senarios that the media wants us to believe will happen.
So should we just head to the MAC now, or at least try living to fight another day?
Good thing is that the pessimists in this forum aren't in the president's and AD's office. I have complete faith in GG and JP right now.
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