Not if you ask Fred. Statistically, my friend,you are wrong. Unfortunately, we couldn't hit a 3 tonight
This isn't rocket science...
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Not if you ask Fred. Statistically, my friend,you are wrong. Unfortunately, we couldn't hit a 3 tonight
Things need to be fixed in this order:
1. Effort- This was really bad tonight at times. Our guys are not talented enough to beat Kansas, Oklahoma State, or Baylor without a strong effort. Any team that shows a consistent lack of hustle deserves to lose.
2. Rebounding- This wasn't near as much of a problem last season, with the same two guys playing the majority of minutes at the 4 and 5. A lot of #1 is also a factor here.
3. Shooting- If we can make threes, great. But if we can't our guys need to move the ball to get better shots. I like running offenses, but tonight I certainly wasn't crazy for all the missed shots early in the shot clock.
1. Effort- This was really bad tonight at times. Our guys are not talented enough to beat Kansas, Oklahoma State, or Baylor without a strong effort. Any team that shows a consistent lack of hustle deserves to lose.
2. Rebounding- This wasn't near as much of a problem last season, with the same two guys playing the majority of minutes at the 4 and 5. A lot of #1 is also a factor here.
3. Shooting- If we can make threes, great. But if we can't our guys need to move the ball to get better shots. I like running offenses, but tonight I certainly wasn't crazy for all the missed shots early in the shot clock.
I think the biggest difference lately has been Niang's love affair with the deep ball. I thought ISU was so much better last year and earlier this season when he did his damage inside. (I will say though, as a KU fan, I haven't seen every ISU game.) I realize it's hard to accomplish much in there against long arms, but his passing is so good that he should be more than capable of luring opposing defenders into a shot block then find an open Ejim for easy layups. He needs to get back to treating the three like an occasional bonus instead of a staple of his game. With his skill set it is kind of a waste to having him standing behind the 3pt line for much of the game.
When you don't have much size inside and your scoring isn't spread out it's tough to beat anyone.
When you don't have much size inside and your scoring isn't spread out it's tough to beat anyone.
I don't know how KU didn't beat us by 20. And for that I give Fred credit, his gameplan would have worked if we could have hit some shots.
But yeah I would like to see Gibson and Edozie get a few minutes in Lawrence.
But yeah I would like to see Gibson and Edozie get a few minutes in Lawrence.
No offense to Percy...but i would not like to see him get a few minutes....he will not solve our rebounding issue :unsure:
I think the OP is spot on, the biggest problem is the 3 pt shooting of this team. ISU is great at pounding the ball inside, and scoring inside, especially considering how undersized they are. I think more and more teams are gonna do what KU and OU did, and that is pack it inside, and let ISU shoot from 3 pt range. If you take away the patsies, ISU is shooting below 30% from 3 pt range, so against (Iowa, Michigan, BYU, Boise, and Big12 games) ISU is shooting 28% from 3. That isn't going to get it done, and it will allow teams to pack it in to stop ISU's interior game.
You could attribute last night's shooting performance from outside and the free throw line to short legs from a 48 hour turnaround, but ISU was below 65% from the FT line in both games and only shot 23% from deep against OU to go along with tonight's 16%. That makes it damn hard to win ANY game.
The shooters on this team have blast their way out of this funk or we will have more nights like tonight.
The shooters on this team have blast their way out of this funk or we will have more nights like tonight.
One thing that jumped out at me was the fact that we were in the bonus with 11 MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME!!!! When we kept getting the ball down low and pushed the break, we'd catch up, then we'd stop, fire up 3s and KU would extend the lead. Poor adjustments this game. I love Hoiball as much as anyone but after two games of the same issues, you need to adjust, so maybe only having one day off really hurt us this time. Also, it appeared as if the 3 ball that Kane tied up the game with really just made us think that we were in that game. KU should have been up by 10 at the half with how bad we executed, fortunately they turned it over quite a bit. It's hard for me to believe that SDW wasn't worth a few minutes out there. With how much work Thomas needs on pretty much everything, I can't see SDW being a bigger liability.
Thomas has been in a "slump" since the season began. However, I do feel bad for the kid because it seems like all his misses are double-and triple rim out. I've never seem so many shots rattle around and NOT go down.
This. If Niang isn't hitting 3's against Kansas it's going to be really hard to beat them. He's the key to the game in Lawrence
Yep, this is what needs to be corrected, or at least the gap needs to be minimized. If this team is going to hang its hat on the 3s starting to fall it's going to be a disappointing end to the season. Even in the half court they had good success when they were attacking the basket against a team that plays very good defense in the paint. Kane and Niang can get to the hoop almost at will, and Morris was very effective attacking and creating shots for others.
Kansas had the same turn around and their 3s were falling. These are college athletes they should be able to handle the quick turn around. The biggest problem is there is no outstand SG on this team.
I said early in the year that this team really isn't built to be a 3 point team and got heckled. Frankly it's true. Any game they could have a good night like Baylor but as far as consistantly, they are more of an undersized around the rim team. Naz, Morris and Thomas all seemed like they had the jitters out there. Morris mellowed out and gave us a good game, the other 2 were kind of awol for most of the game.
If our SGs can get confidence and start consistantly hitting open looks, we will be much better for it.
If our SGs can get confidence and start consistantly hitting open looks, we will be much better for it.
Its 100% in his head. At the end of the game when he didn't think about it, just shot he nailed the 3.
Yes, we shot 16%, but keep in mind, that's heavily weighted by an 0-9 from one guy(Naing). Take that out and we're 4-16, not good, but definitely manageable. Niang has to know when it isn't there, and I understand we need him to create a mismatch, but he can do that with a drive and kick as well. Take out the 3s, and he shot 4-11, once again, not great but considering who he was being guarded by, you can live with that, especially if he's driving and drawing fouls.
Do the math... ISU got crushed on the boards the last 2 games... why? The Cyclones lack size down low and guess who has been shooting the most 3's? ISU has put up 51 3-point attempts in the last two games and our "3 amigos" in the post Hogue, Ejim, and Niang have launched 26 of them. They are shooting a combined 16% from 3-point range in those games. If our bigs want to hang out on the perimeter and launch 3's all night you can count on ISU getting beat up on the boards and losing games. In the last 2 games ISU has racked up a 24 rebound deficit to their opponents.
You are correct that this isn't rocket science. It's time for Hoiberg to take the green light away from some of these guys.
A key stat in my opinion is the 12 assists. When you are top 3 in the country in assists, that means you pass the ball well and allows for high percentage shots to be taken. Some of last nights struggles can be accredited to Embiid, KU's length and us missing shots; however, when we made some of our runs it was due to being less selfish and recognizing a good shot when they had it. They just played nervous and rushed shots. Plus, Niang needs to recognize when his 3 isn't falling, because Kane and Ejim seemed to have a better stroke last night, if that was even possible. Some people may argue that hey, good shooters need to keep shooting to find their stroke, but at some point when you reach 0-7 you should start looking to pass not keeping chucking.
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