Thomas should not have been starting over Morris
- Thread starter BigCojones
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I don't care about starts either. It's funny that the crowd saying that you are dumb if you disagree with Fred are pumping Thomas up, but he barely plays in the 2nd half.
Just FYI:
Thomas is averaging 4.3 rebounds per 40 minutes.
Morris is averaging 4.1.
Long is averaging 3.2.
Thomas shooting 11.4 PP40M on 38.6% & 35.5%.
Morris 12.5 PP40M 43.8% & 42.9%.
Long 15.7 PP40M on 50% & 46%.
Just FYI:
Thomas is averaging 4.3 rebounds per 40 minutes.
Morris is averaging 4.1.
Long is averaging 3.2.
Thomas shooting 11.4 PP40M on 38.6% & 35.5%.
Morris 12.5 PP40M 43.8% & 42.9%.
Long 15.7 PP40M on 50% & 46%.
Dumb? No. Annoying? Yes.
We are 14-1 and we have fans ripping a freshmen when he's in a slump.
Would it make you feel better if we removed names and age from players?
If so it should be quite obvious that number 15 is performing better than number 21.
With that being said, we could be 15-0 and still find ways to improve.
I'm not sure who you think is ripping Thomas. Pointing out that other players are outperforming MT is not the same thing as ripping on MT. Quit planting strawmen.
Haha ok pal. Go check out game thread, this thread, and twitter and tell me Cyclone fans aren't ripping Thomas.
90+% of the posts that are questioning Thomas in some way aren't ripping on him, they're simply saying perhaps Morris or Long should be starting. That's far from ripping on him.
Everyone here would agree that if they had to choose between Morris and Kane starting, Kane should be starting. That's not ripping on Morris, it's just acknowledging how good Kane has been playing.
The only think people rip on him for is not shooting enough. If that's the only thing they're ripping on you for then your doing ok.
Lots of people are saying that the others are better though. There's a difference with that though. Like the other person said just because someone else is better doesn't mean Matt is bad.
I think everyone who watches the games know that Thomas is the worst of the top 7. Sure he has the potential to be real good, but he isn't yet. He just isn't bad either. It's just like last year when McGee didn't start even though he was one of our best guys.
McGee was one of the best guys (the best) shooting but he was not better than KL, Babb, or Clyburn.
We really need to stop equating this year to McGee coming off the bench.
I'm frustrated for Matt. Kids got a lot of potential. At the beginning of the game he was wide open, but hesitated and passed up a shot. If he's not confident enough to take a wide open shot at the very start of the game, then when is he going to be confident enough? It's not like he was the reason ISU lost, I just want him to be confident in his game. Take shots without hesitating, make or miss.
I would argue that Mcgee was better than KL, and I think it could be argued that he was the best player on the roster last year (off the bench or not). Played starting minutes, rebounded well, serviceable on defense, got to the rack, developed mid range game, and best shooter I think I've watched in cyclone uniform in the past 25 years. Claiming Mcgee was a better shooter but not a better player, and that is why he came off the bench, is more than short sided.
Babb and Clyburn were better at everything but shooting. KL was a better ball-handler, passer, and defender, and equal enough at rebounding. I loved McGee, and he was great on offense, but he was a shooting guard in the truest sense.
Guys I hear what you are all saying, MT is struggling right now, its obvious, Fred is reducing his minutes in the second half that's also obvious. Us ******** about him in social media is not going to help this kid play better. Why do we have to continue to do this? If anything its contributing to his reduced confidence.
Its also obvious this kid has a pretty good basketball IQ, doesn't hurt us by taking bad shots, I agree he could take a few more but whatever, his release does need to speed up and it will, look at Naz's improvement. Can we quit bagging on this kid?
Its also obvious this kid has a pretty good basketball IQ, doesn't hurt us by taking bad shots, I agree he could take a few more but whatever, his release does need to speed up and it will, look at Naz's improvement. Can we quit bagging on this kid?
I personally love the only argument for his is "he doesn't hurt us". Well neither do the other two, and those two currently do more for us.
2nd on team in scoring, more rebounds per game than KL and Babb, led team in steals per game with Babb. You are entitled to your opinion, but I think your recollection is blinded a bit. Mcgee was much more than a "shooting guard in the truest sense". I think he was the piece on last years team that is hardest to replace/replicate.
Scoring? Yes, we have already established he was the best shooter. If it was only about taking, and making, shots, sure. Of, course it isn't. Steals? You have to be kidding. That is not a measure of good defense.
He was not better than Babb, and he could not play a lead guard like KL or the wing like Will. Great shooter off the bench though.
