Absolutely.
They were laying the ground rules early.......but just for one side. That is a bias or fix whatever you want to use.
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Absolutely.
They were laying the ground rules early.......but just for one side. That is a bias or fix whatever you want to use.
You mean treatment like in Bill Snyder's "farewell" game? That would have been interesting to see.
Up until that "farewell" game I never subscribed to the "fixed" stuff. And even now with a missed holding here or PI there.....just bad officiating. This was a little different against Baylor.
I 100% understand why the white hat flagged that from where he was and I probably would have too. The breakdown was the linesman either not seeing it (bad mechanics) or not having the confidence to communicate to the white hat. Both are things that shouldn't happen at the college level.
Honestly, with the running back lowering his whole upper body like he did, the only way to avoid getting that call, was to not tackle at all. Just back off and let the running back go. I honestly thing that's what happened to our D for the rest of the game. They were playing on their heels for fear of getting flagged for playing football.
The refs were awful. I was as pissed at them during that game as I’ve ever been during a football game I think.
But it’s inconceivable to me that there was a coordinated, game-fixing scheme during a Sept 26th, 11 a.m. Big 12 game between two historically middle-of-the-road programs on ESPN2. Personally, I think those refs were to lousy to even be able to pull something like that off.
But it’s inconceivable to me that there was a coordinated, game-fixing scheme during a Sept 26th, 11 a.m. Big 12 game between two historically middle-of-the-road programs on ESPN2. Personally, I think those refs were to lousy to even be able to pull something like that off.
Isn’t it possible they just weren’t good at their job? It seems more likely that rather than being biased (at least before the game) or looking to fix the game, they just did a really bad job on the first couple calls.
Then after missing those and getting yelled at, they perhaps became slightly biased because they were mad/had their feelings hurt. Just again think that’s more likely than a bunch of guys liking Baylor over ISU…or having this be about gambling.
Then after missing those and getting yelled at, they perhaps became slightly biased because they were mad/had their feelings hurt. Just again think that’s more likely than a bunch of guys liking Baylor over ISU…or having this be about gambling.
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My instincts would tell me that there is a far higher probability that fixing occurs in college football than not.
There is a lot of money in sports gambling. There is little accountability or transparency in officiating. The same people who pay the officials promote sports gambling.
There is a lot of money in sports gambling. There is little accountability or transparency in officiating. The same people who pay the officials promote sports gambling.
You guys really think these refs that get paid very very well, get stipend travel and worked their ass off to get to this point in order to ref power 5 games are going to fix a game? Especially after going through hours of training each year reminding you that its a major violation, instant firing and jail time if you do do it. Too much to lose. Its not happening
KidSilverhair
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Yes I think it happens.
A bad actor could probably pay them more than they will make all year officiating. History has shown us at least someone would do it (and it's happened many times).
There's also like no oversight. What's the accountability for this replay official to explain his call? If you read the B12 policies they are ambiguous about how they review officials and don't do it publicly.
Did the refs force the d lineman to face mask? There are other legit calls that certainly influenced the outcome that were blatant fouls that destroyed us.
I don't know if I would say "more likely than not," but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. Or at least fixing that certain events will occur.
But the problem is getting from that to "the refs in the Iowa State - Baylor game had fixed the game." Match fixing is one of the most serious accusations in sports and I'm going to need to see more evidence before believing a specific game was fixed.
Allow me to check the finance and phone records of the officials, and I'll get back to you
Great, thanks.Allow me to check the finance and phone records of the officials, and I'll get back to you
But it can also be things like strange betting patters
Yeah I suppose maybe if someone compiled some stats on crews (+ replay officials if they release that info) and then records of teams and/or gambling results.
Would still be hard to detect though from that if it's not something they do every week.
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