Three turnovers and two blocked punts...

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Campbell's new buzzphrase is "it's a game of imperfection" - it makes me wonder if he felt like he was putting too much pressure on the players to be perfect and realized he needed to change his tune on that. I really love the phrase - the game will not go perfect and it's how you respond to the imperfections and mistakes that makes you win or lose.
I also noticed during post game presser that he said at least 3x - we need the Iowa game to shape us, not define us.
 

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Not convinced either of these teams are that good this year. Hope I am wrong about one of them. This ISU team would have a hard time even beating the bottom feeders of the Big 12 at this point. That being said no reason to think that we wont improve dramatically in October like CMC teams always do.

I agree to an extent but getting Jirehl to 100 yds against that defense gives me A LOT of hope going forward. If we have a decent running attack we have the QB and a stud receiver to make teams pay. Defense will just get better with reps as well.
 
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someone go do the statistics

whats the % of a team going into kinnick- turning it over 3 times with 2 blocked punts and coming out with a win?

i hear that and i'd say iowa won by 20.
Agree, and we shoulda/coulda have had at least 27-31 points!
 
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we can but let's be honest; Petras and Brian Ferentz were two of the most valuable Cyclones on Saturday. That's the biggest reason they only had 7 pts.
BF is the problem. I saw somewhere the best offense during his tenure was ranked 86th. Petres may not be able to carry a team but with better coaching, play calling and better OL play he would be fine.
 

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Not exactly sure.
BF is the problem. I saw somewhere the best offense during his tenure was ranked 86th. Petres may not be able to carry a team but with better coaching, play calling and better OL play he would be fine.
And whose offense is he running and who is keeping him there?

The first year Brian got the job, Kirk brought back KOK and hired the NDSU OC in other jobs, if you don’t think they were hired to baby Brian along you are fooling yourself.
 

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And whose offense is he running and who is keeping him there?

The first year Brian got the job, Kirk brought back KOK and hired the NDSU OC in other jobs, if you don’t think they were hired to baby Brian along you are fooling yourself.
Didn't know that, either BF is incapable of learning or those guys did a lousy job. Kirk is ultimately responsible but he's not going anywhere until he wants.
 
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Not convinced either of these teams are that good this year. Hope I am wrong about one of them. This ISU team would have a hard time even beating the bottom feeders of the Big 12 at this point. That being said no reason to think that we wont improve dramatically in October like CMC teams always do.

Depends on your definition of good.

If we beat Ohio you think this is Campbell’s worst team and we go worse than 7-5?

Look at the years Campbell has been sub 4-5 in conf. There aren’t any lately.

If we’d have started every year 3-0, 8-10 wins would be the average norm.
 

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Not convinced either of these teams are that good this year. Hope I am wrong about one of them. This ISU team would have a hard time even beating the bottom feeders of the Big 12 at this point. That being said no reason to think that we wont improve dramatically in October like CMC teams always do.
I think that ISU has a chance to be really good. Gotta clean up the mistakes some, but they have the pieces. Offense that can both run and pass, defense that is tough to move the ball on. Punt game is an easy fix.

Iowa I don't know. Their division is horrible, so maybe they pick up a few wins. I just have a hard time seeing how they could even go 6-6 depending solely on punting and turnovers. Now maybe they make a QB change, get a few players back and win some toss up games. But their ceiling is much, much lower than ISU's.
 
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It was poor special teams and very costly turnovers on the obvious side- which I hope we clean up.
The hard part for me is the inside the 10 play calls. Dekkers doesn’t understand running the ball or he can’t do it, neither of those are good. He just shouldn’t have designed runs unless it’s a sneak. Give the ball to Brock or something to X (reverse) instead of wasting a down.
 
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It was poor special teams and very costly turnovers on the obvious side- which I hope we clean up.
The hard part for me is the inside the 10 play calls. Dekkers doesn’t understand running the ball or he can’t do it, neither of those are good. He just shouldn’t have designed runs unless it’s a sneak. Give the ball to Brock or something to X (reverse) instead of wasting a down.

Agreed. I believe we were pretty good at scoring TD's in the red-zone last year. However, finishing drives (with TD's) has been the primary complaint about ISU's offense over the years. I feel the play calls/scheme change drastically once we get into the red zone, almost as if we are over thinking plays and getting too cute. Granted, the field compresses inside the red zone which creates additional challenges.
 

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I agree that CMC might actually love the way it went. There is a ton to work on and teach from, but collected a needed W.
That punter has got to move quicker!
I hope we can get a little more out of someone other than RB1 and WR1.
 

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Just a crazy game. We had twelve possessions. Only two ended up in scores.

Of the other ten, five ended in disaster (TO or Blocked Punt). So 50% of those possessions were complete **** shows and we still won. Insane.
 

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It would be nice if we lived in a world where ADs would intercede when coaches (their employees) routinely drop the ball in an area of performance. It always feels like, once hired, coaches are rarely subject to reproach in terms of their coaching hires and decisions. Campbell has had ample opportunity to improve in the special teams department, yet it continues (year after year) to cost games or jeopardize those we were still fortunate enough to win.

We saw two programs on Saturday with long term, utterly laughable problems neither HC has properly addressed. Iowa's offense has been deplorable yet Kirk won't fire his son, while our STs nearly cost us another game. At this point it shouldn't be up to the head coach yet we live in a world where the coaches have too much power. Can someone, at this point, really make an argument having individual S and CB coaches makes more sense than have a dedicated STs coach? Or having a TE coach over an STs coach?

This team will never be able to take the "next step" when it beats itself 2-3 times a year with pathetic STs. I don't know why Campbell, despite all of the positives and successes in other areas, can't figure this out. Its maddening.
 

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Campbell's new buzzphrase is "it's a game of imperfection" - it makes me wonder if he felt like he was putting too much pressure on the players to be perfect and realized he needed to change his tune on that. I really love the phrase - the game will not go perfect and it's how you respond to the imperfections and mistakes that makes you win or lose.

Anyone that's played football even at the high school level knows that even after practicing over and over, it can be an absolute mess out there.

It's definitely a sport where 'we need a game or two to see where we really are' is absolute.
 
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Really the fault lies with Kirk. Brian may be the OC but this is Kirks offense. Brian does what he’s told.
 

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It would be nice if we lived in a world where ADs would intercede when coaches (their employees) routinely drop the ball in an area of performance. It always feels like, once hired, coaches are rarely subject to reproach in terms of their coaching hires and decisions. Campbell has had ample opportunity to improve in the special teams department, yet it continues (year after year) to cost games or jeopardize those we were still fortunate enough to win.

We saw two programs on Saturday with long term, utterly laughable problems neither HC has properly addressed. Iowa's offense has been deplorable yet Kirk won't fire his son, while our STs nearly cost us another game. At this point it shouldn't be up to the head coach yet we live in a world where the coaches have too much power. Can someone, at this point, really make an argument having individual S and CB coaches makes more sense than have a dedicated STs coach? Or having a TE coach over an STs coach?

This team will never be able to take the "next step" when it beats itself 2-3 times a year with pathetic STs. I don't know why Campbell, despite all of the positives and successes in other areas, can't figure this out. Its maddening.
We won.
 

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While I'm sure everyone--coaches and players--got to enjoy the win, I'm sure this week they're getting torn new a-holes for all the unbelievably sloppy mistakes.

If I'm a coach I'm elated that we got the win but also elated about how obvious it is that there needs to be improvement for players' mindset sake.
 

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We got away with it. However, we really have to correct the special teams stuff. Interceptions will happen. Hopefully they are not as epic as the interceptions saturday. Fumbles will happen, hopefully they don't happen at the one yard line anymore.