Time to stop playing at Drake
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When you say those things it makes us sound as petty as Hawk fans who want to cancel the football series. We need to quit whining and just win.
Actually Drake missed lots of opportunities. it could have been a 20-30 point loss.
There's a reason its unique. Most other schools arent dumb enough to regularly give up home games in 2 series to midmajors every year.
There's no reason this series couldnt continue just at hilton, like most other series involving midmajors, especially small ones like drake with just a couple thousand undergrads.
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I don't know if I'd say they played a great game. Their shots were falling, ours weren't. They had a better offensive strategy against our D, than we did against their D. That's the one plus I think Drake can take out of this game(other than the win of course).
They committed a lot of TO's and were out rebounded. They also go into foul trouble early. Hands down we should have won this game. Lack of teamwork, fundamentals, and a true PG absolutely killed us. I usually like to give the other team credit, but anybody watching this game besides the homer Drake announcers can easily say this was more ISU losing the game than Drake winning the game, simply because there's a large talent gap there.
Unfortunately, as always in college sports, that talent gap doesn't always equate to a win, and I hope our guys take note of that and practice their ***** off for the rest of the season to ensure poor play like that never happens again.
I'm perfectly OK playing Drake and UNI in any sport. I just want to get to the level where is is rare that they win.
United Spirit Arena at Texas Tech holds 15,000 people, and does not resemble a high school gym in the slightest.
You have a point with Meyer Coliseum at TCU though, only seats 7,000. I would hope they expand as they increase revenue in the Big 12. This only validates my point that we shouldn't play at the Knapp Center if we're going to have to play at TCU every year as well.
I personally feel these games are a good test to get ready for hostile road environments in the Big 12, so I disagree we should stop the home-and-home.
Tim Floyd did bring this up back in the day, however, and made a pretty big stink about having to play at UNI and Drake. Steve Alford also suggested "the major" shouldn't have to go on the road to play the mid-majors. Both of them got lambasted for it. Of course, Alford also included ISU as one of the teams "the major" shouldn't have to play on the road.
Agreed. It is a good test early in the year. Yeah, losing to them sucks but the team just needs to take care of business.
I hadn't realized UCLA lost another one. Doesn't make the Drake loss any different, but it does provide perspective.
But here's where it gets strange: check the opponent's leading scoring in the most recent loss:
Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders vs. UCLA Bruins - Recap - November 15, 2011 - ESPN
We outrebounded Drake by 1 rebound. We had 2 less TO's than Drake. I agree that ISU lost the game more than Drake won it. Scotty, Ejim played terrible. Allen shot poorly. The 5 minutes that Bubu was in the game were a waste. We should have outrebounded Drake by a lot. White let Clark play him to a draw many times. And White needs to quit charging in going to the bucket. Although I thought the refs gave Drake several breaks as the man was moving and flopped.
Missouri actually did play SLU home and home on a regular basis early in the last decade. And when Mizzou lost, some fans said the same thing: why are we playing a highly-motivated mid-major (albeit a good one) on their home court?
I think playing a team like Drake is better than the alternative: playing some mid-major nobody's ever heard of and nobody cares about. Outside of touraments, ISU is not going to get a lot of home and homes with the perennial national powers.
You're better off getting some close game experience now than fattening up on cupcakes and getting exposed in the Big 12. Lots of solid major teams take bad losses in November (Belmont? Davidson?), but it won't wreck your bubble chances. Win or lose at Drake, being over .500 in conference will insure that ISU goes to the dance.
Exactly. Drake should be treated like any other small mid-major that ISU would play as far as scheduling goes.
This is about getting wins to make post-season play. ISU plays a nasty conference schedule. There's no reason to make the pre-conference schedule any tougher than it needs to be. Right now, ISU needs to take every advantage possible in order to make post-season play. One of the perks that ISU can draw on is not having to play road games at mid-majors.
When ISU makes the tourney, nobody will really give a crap that ISU made Drake come to Ames for the game. When ISU is a perennial top ten team, then maybe throw Drake a bone and go play once in awhile in their "intimate" setting...
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There is a lot more to be said for a game against Drake in basketball. It's always a bigger game because of in-state rivalry, and a loss doesn't kill your season if you take care of business the rest of the way. UNI in football? That is a better question.
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