We should press the whole game like WVU
We don't have the conditioning to do it. This team is showing bouts of fatigue throughout the game.
We should press the whole game like WVU
ExactlyLast year at this time ISU had just gotten stomped by West Virginia and people were clammoring for a leader and lack of toughness. Just a reminder
Disagree completely. We have good talent, but we DON"T HAVE TALENT GALORE. And thats not a knock on any of our players. Love our team. But, we don't have more talent than the other top 5 big 12 teams. I about puked when a fan posted that our second team could make the NCAA's after an early season dominating win. This is the Big12 and these players are good. Mason and Woodard nuetralized our point guard. Thomas made our post offense look avg. Disagree that these losses are all about toughness. What we do have are weaknesses, and we don't have the "depth" of players that can DEFEND "good big12 teams" for 40 minutes anyways. Effort was there, but the talent to guard everyone one- on- one is not. Versatile team, but not as much quality depth as people think, imo. If tonight didn't prove we have no choice but to double down low to stay with "good" post players, nothing else will. Obviously, OU is going to kill you on the 3's if you do however. We'll have to play darn well to get them in Hilton. Hopefully a guy avergaging 3.9 pts a game (Booker) doesn't come off the bench again and go 4-6 from three. Having said that, its no time to give up or worry. We're a good team....just not as great or as immensely talented as some have suggested.
Yep. Poor defense, letting them get offensive rebounds, ect...We let them?
Last year at this time ISU had just gotten stomped by West Virginia and people were clammoring for a leader and lack of toughness. Just a reminder
I think a lot of message board posters lack mental toughness as well, especially when melting down after losing to a very good ranked team on their court after that previously mentioned ranked team played very well. But that's none of my business.
I think it starts with our coach.
This team needs a kick in the *** instead of a pat on the back. No excuse for tonight's focus and effort the last 24 minutes. After 4 "wake-up calls" you wouldn't think we would still need to be questioning focus/effort/urgency. Those are things that can be controlled whether you have Kentucky type talent or Mississippi Valley State talent.
I don't know... is it really just about focus and effort? I mean, if that's the case, does that mean all these teams that come into Hilton and leave with a loss.... their reason for the loss is lack of effort and focus that they had when they beat us at their place? Its seems too simple to just narrow it down to that, but you may have a better handle on it than me. Hard to explain.
Disagree completely. WVU was ISU's really only bad game last year. ISU was competitive in each of their road loses last year. The WVU game was an incredibly quick turn around after the Ejim game. Most of us chalked it up to a horrible game on short turn around. This year, ISU is getting into large deficits on the road, and the team folds. Much different then last year.
Disagree completely. We have good talent, but we DON"T HAVE TALENT GALORE. And thats not a knock on any of our players. Love our team. But, we don't have more talent than the other top 5 big 12 teams. I about puked when a fan posted that our second team could make the NCAA's after an early season dominating win. This is the Big12 and these players are good. Mason and Woodard nuetralized our point guard. Thomas made our post offense look avg. Disagree that these losses are all about toughness. What we do have are weaknesses, and we don't have the "depth" of players that can DEFEND "good big12 teams" for 40 minutes anyways. Effort was there, but the talent to guard everyone one- on- one is not. Versatile team, but not as much quality depth as people think, imo. If tonight didn't prove we have no choice but to double down low to stay with "good" post players, nothing else will. Obviously, OU is going to kill you on the 3's if you do however. We'll have to play darn well to get them in Hilton. Hopefully a guy avergaging 3.9 pts a game (Booker) doesn't come off the bench again and go 4-6 from three. Having said that, its no time to give up or worry. We're a good team....just not as great or as immensely talented as some have suggested.
We're more talented than a large majority of teams we play and defeat in Hilton. There is no shame at all in losing in Norman to this Oklahoma team, but the way we did it was dreadful. They outscored us by 28 points in a 20 minute stretch where we consistantly stood and watched while their guys crashed the boards or drove by us for easy shots in the lane. That is focus and effort.
This team needs a kick in the *** instead of a pat on the back. No excuse for tonight's focus and effort the last 24 minutes. After 4 "wake-up calls" you wouldn't think we would still need to be questioning focus/effort/urgency. Those are things that can be controlled whether you have Kentucky type talent or Mississippi Valley State talent.
Wake up calls? We've beaten the snooze button to a pulp.
Wake up calls? We've beaten the snooze button to a pulp.
Wake up calls? We've beaten the snooze button to a pulp.