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jcyclonee

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I remember it being Coor's Light.
That's pretty hoity toity.
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JesseTU

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How much Busch Light does Tulsa have? Because whatever it is, double it, and even then it still won’t be enough as the Cyclone fans will have completely consumed it by the end of next weekend.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/A...277f0fecb8badc!8m2!3d36.1962915!4d-95.9423581

I'm sure super-mega-beer-corp keeps track of such things. Seriously, I'm guessing they know the favorite beer of each fan base coming to Tulsa. I'm also sure that I now really want to see those projections out of general interest.

On an unrelated note, if someone were to horde Busch Light in Tulsa, would IA State fans be willing to pay extra for it when it runs out, or would they just move on to the next cheapest beer? Asking for a friend.
 

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Is the Arts District area new-ish? When I look at google maps of the hotel I'm staying at, it's clearly still under lots of construction.
 

JesseTU

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Best (and ideally free, but not required to be) place to park?

Happy to walk a good distance to the games to enjoy the city, see the people, and maybe grab the necessary food and drink before watching some basketball, thanks.

If you are staying at a hotel outside of downtown, check the Uber/Lyft rates because its probably $10-20 to get downtown. You don't have to worry about parking or driving back after bar hoping. Have a drink after the session to avoid the surge.

If you are parking downtown, street parking downtown is free on nights and weekends. There are a ton of surface lots and garages nearby that usually charge more when there is an event. Look for parking in the Tulsa Arts district NE of the BOK - you can park, eat, and walk easily to the BOK Center (I generally take Boulder over the tracks to avoid possible sketchyness near the Archer and Denver area at night). Even if you have to pay to park there, the lots are cheaper. OSU Tulsa allows free parking for *some* events, not sure what the plan is for this weekend... it would be a ~ half mile walk or so through an interesting part of town. Also check to see if shuttles are running. (or you can form a scooter gang with Lime/Bird)

Usually the parking garage NW of 1st and Boston is cheap on the weekends - like $2 cheap IIRC. It's only a few blocks from the BOK. That might not apply Thursday night as it is the garage for a tower during the work day. But it is my go-to when there is a big event downtown.

You can definitely find free parking on the street if you are willing to walk. In general, move SE from the BOK Center towards TCC / Boston Avenue Methodist church and the parking on the street in the evenings will thin out (other areas probably have their own things going on, in addition to the NCAA). Some lots are real aggressive policing the pay parking, most ramps are.

You can usually price the ramps online, but I can't stand by the info. American Parking and Secure Parking are the most common I think:
https://www.bestparking.com/tulsa-ok-parking/
 
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Paul Rhoads' former #2 strength coach is now the head guy at Tulsa

https://tulsahurricane.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1410&path=ath-perf

I know a couple of the assistants since I graduated in their class. Just text them and they recommend Fassler Hall for food and drinks. Very similar to Hessen House in Downtown Des Moines. Large outdoor patio (Near 70 degrees on Friday in Tulsa) 7 blocks from the BOK Center
 
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If anyone is looking for something cultural to do after ISU wins Friday Night, I would suggest visiting the Woody Guthrie Museum. It is awesome. The dude was cool.
 

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Why is Tulsa shown on "The First 48" so much?

Great show, btw.
 

JesseTU

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Is the Arts District area new-ish? When I look at google maps of the hotel I'm staying at, it's clearly still under lots of construction.

Nope. It's actually one of the oldest neighborhoods in Oklahoma, dating back to the post civil-war era (that's new for Oklahoma, which wasn't a state until late 1907!). Many of the buildings are still standing from the 1910s and 20s, though many others were lost for a variety of reasons (a horrible race massacre, neglect, "urban renewal"). You can still find brick streets (and lots of brick under asphalt), old trolley lines in the roadway, and many buildings that don't make sense (because they were originally built along RR spurs that are no longer there).

The area started coming back ~20 years ago and really picked up steam ~10 years ago. Boatloads of re-purposing, remodels and new construction from art galleries, to archives (Woody Guthrie archives with the Bob Dylan archives coming soon), to apartments/condos/lofts, hotels, and some corporate buildings. What was a truck depot is now a park in the middle of the district. I'm thrilled they are keeping most of the old buildings, old businesses and venues in the area and seem to be mostly adding to it, instead of just sweeping the all of the old away and starting over.

If you came back in 3 years, you'd see another slate of a dozen or so new buildings. Logistics seems to keep the construction to 2 or 3 at a time in the area. If you are staying at the Holiday Inn, it was just completed a few months ago (and they are still working on the parking garage). I did a walk through a few weeks back and its really nice, the location is amazing. Also... You are half a block from Glacier Bean to Bar, chocolatiers. Go there. So good.

For a different breakfast check out Que Gusto (Ecuadorian food, ~ a block away) or Antoinette Baking Co (~4 blocks away). For a really nice evening meal and some drinks find the Bull in the Alley. But there is so much in that district that is good, so if its full don't fret.
 
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JesseTU

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So, what’s a good bar for Saturday night and good brunch place(bloody Mary’s) Sunday morning?

I'm getting to all the bar questions, I promise. So many bar questions I keep adding to it.

Bloody Mary's... now, Im a pretty plain Bloody Mary guy, but for those that are really into it I hear:

Downtown - Dilly Diner in the Blue Dome District (near 2nd and Elgin) or the Bramble just outside downtown at 6th and Peoria
Cherry Street - Killkenny's or Roosevelts (~1 or 2 from downtown)
Brookside - Cosmo Cafe, R Bar, or Docs (~ 3 maybe 4 miles from downtown, an easy Scooter ride if you take the Rivertails and then over)
Fancy as f**k - Chalkboard Restaurant ("uptown" or S. side of downtown), Villa Phillbrook (~3 miles from downtown in a huge and immaculate 1930s mansion turned art gallery), or the Polo Grill (~2 miles from downtown)

MixCo, right across from BOK has a mean Bloody Mary (with Bacon garnish), but I'm not sure they are open in the AM usually.

Most of the places with a good Bloody Mary will have a solid brunch. My go-to would be Dilly Diner, because I'm a fairly simple (bacon and eggs) breakfast guy, but am not opposed to booze at breakfast. But "R Bar" would probably be the most common answer followed by Bramble, if you want options head to Brookside and walk along the street and there are several brunch options on top of each other.
 
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Nope. It's actually one of the oldest neighborhoods in Oklahoma, dating back to the post civil-war era (that's new for Oklahoma, which wasn't a state until late 1907!). Many of the buildings are still standing from the 1910s and 20s, though many others were lost for a variety of reasons (a horrible race massacre, neglect, "urban renewal"). You can still find brick streets (and lots of brick under asphalt), old trolley lines in the roadway, and many buildings that don't make sense (because they were originally built along RR spurs that are no longer there).

The area started coming back ~20 years ago and really picked up steam ~10 years ago. Boatloads of re-purposing, remodels and new construction from art galleries, to archives (Woody Guthrie archives with the Bob Dylan archives coming soon), to apartments/condos/lofts, hotels, and some corporate buildings. What was a truck depot is now a park in the middle of the district. I'm thrilled they are keeping most of the old buildings, old businesses and venues in the area and seem to be mostly adding to it, instead of just sweeping the all of the old away and starting over.

If you came back in 3 years, you'd see another slate of a dozen or so new buildings. Logistics seems to keep the construction to 2 or 3 at a time in the area. If you are staying at the Holiday Inn, it was just completed a few months ago (and they are still working on the parking garage). I did a walk through a few weeks back and its really nice, the location is amazing. Also... You are half a block from Glacier Bean to Bar, chocolatiers. Go there. So good.

For a different breakfast check out Que Gusto (Ecuadorian food, ~ a block away) or Antoinette Baking Co (~4 blocks away). For a really nice evening meal and some drinks find the Bull in the Alley. But there is so much in that district that is good, so if its full don't fret.

Oh shoot, do they have some parking for the Holiday Inn if the garage is still under construction? Their website alluded that they have parking and valet parking... if not might have an issue.
 

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I will have a nice autumnal mead . . . .

I know you're joking, but...

"Avant-garde ciders and meads made with only fresh-pressed apples and real raw honey processed in Oklahoma | serves beer | next to Oklahoma Distilling Co."
https://www.facebook.com/pg/localciderok/about/

If you're looking for cheap beer, stay away from the breweries (it isn't horrible expensive, but it isn't often Busch Light cheap). If want good beer, you can hit up 8 breweries and a distillery within ~3.7 mile route from the BOK Center. A few of them right near the cider place above. Renaissance Brewing is another ~ mile from some of those. Though, you should not even consider hitting them all up at once and you should definitely be getting a ride to any of them.

Beer good. DUI, public intox or alcohol poisoning bad.

If you want to widen the scope, you could head out past the refineries to American Solera brewing, or their brewpub on the east side of downtown. Though I generally think of it generally as more of a brewery for "beer connoisseurs" (insert whatever derogatory term you prefer).

OR - The Colony offers really really cheap draws of Keystone, an outdoor patio along a busy road, and live music 7 nights a week. A ~$10 Uber from downtown. I actually love that place...
 
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JesseTU

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Oh shoot, do they have some parking for the Holiday Inn if the garage is still under construction? Their website alluded that they have parking and valet parking... if not might have an issue.

I think they are doing valet, based on what I have seen while walking by but it could be people dropping off bag out front. I assume they are doing some form of off-site parking while the garage is being built, but I don't know if it is self park, valet, or both. Many commercial buildings use what will be the parking area for staging to build the primary structure, so it probably isn't uncommon to have this situation.

Sorry I don't really know.
 
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I spent a fair amount of time in Tulsa between 08-11 (cousin was going to TU), and it reminded me a lot of Des Moines. A little bigger, a little more old money but had that casual middle of nowhere "cooler than anyone's giving credit for" thing going on.
 

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Why is Tulsa shown on "The First 48" so much?

Great show, btw.

Wow, y'all are asking some tangential Tulsa questions. Well, okay...

I think it's because TPD is really good at solving murders (over 90% I think). The national average isn't nearly as good and I'd guess it is more fulfilling for viewers when they are usually resolved in an episode or postscript. At the same time, we sadly must have enough "interesting" murders to keep the cameras rolling:
83 murders in 2017
65 in 2018

For comparison, Des Moines had:
25 in 2017
13 in 2018

In Tulsa's defense, Des Moines is 217k people with 645k in the metro. Tulsa is 413k with 1.2 million metro.


The show is something I hear about every now and then, and a few people really don't like it. But generally it isn't something that even comes up.


https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/tul...cle_88d4812b-0c12-5240-9926-307cd8f7da8e.html

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...ictim-guns-murder-kill-dead-trial/2336539002/
 

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Looking at a map of Tulsa, why is there no development northwest of downtown Tulsa, but southeast is heavily developed?
 

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I spent a fair amount of time in Tulsa between 08-11 (cousin was going to TU), and it reminded me a lot of Des Moines. A little bigger, a little more old money but had that casual middle of nowhere "cooler than anyone's giving credit for" thing going on.

Yes....it too reminded me of Des Moines in general that we are both small citites (speaking of downtown). Very easy to get around so hopefully 'Clone fans will take advantage and just stroll around downtown and hit places. If you are staying outside of downtown, they have loads of surface parking....it is actually excessive...so i encourage you to head downtown for entertainment. Let's takeover downtown like we did San Antonio (and continue to do KC)!