UNI Replay and Recap

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Yes he did. Downing can play both Guard spots. Put in Downing at Right Guard. Slide Knipfel to Right Tackle. Meeker loses spot. That might happen. And Good-Jones better watch out for Joey Ramos.
I could see them sliding JGJ back to Center and putting Ramos at LT.
 
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I have to ask this, because I honestly don’t know. Are there lots of college quarterbacks who make every single read correctly, every time?

Or is that, say, just the Heisman contenders, the Baker Mayfields?

I don't think the Mayfields or Murrays or Hurts make the correct read anymore than others. In fact, I think they are just fine keeping it more than they should. I guess if you have their wheels that is fine.

But to your point. It seems to me Purdy probably got told, you will always read the handoff for this game.
 

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Imo his comments are saying that despite the score and near disaster, we’re a good team that nearly intentionally risked losing to an overmatched opponent. Is that a good game plan?

They didn’t start taking creative RPO shots in the red zone until OT when they realized they needed to put the game away.

The Cyclones executed their base offense and defense at a pretty solid level, but played with a governor on that limited their ability to put away a solid FCS opponent.”

Any game plan that morphs a rather strong, if not dominant effort, into needing breaks like the fortuitous fumble in 3OT to win isn’t a good plan. At the very least it is stubbornly needless risk, which has cost us in the past.

That's a fair, and extremely confusing/frustrating, analysis. I'm not sure "intentionally" is the right way to put it, but we seemed content to extend fall camp into Saturday. At least that's the sense I got from Purdy never keeping the ball and the conservative game strategy.

This whole narrative of the coaches working on Purdy not abandoning the pocket could be a frustrating narrative throughout the season. They're right that he needs to feel more comfortable and step up, but it's probably difficult to feel secure when you're getting lit up against UNI. He will need to extend plays for this offense to be successful.
 

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Imo his comments are saying that despite the score and near disaster, we’re a good team that nearly intentionally risked losing to an overmatched opponent. Is that a good game plan?

They didn’t start taking creative RPO shots in the red zone until OT when they realized they needed to put the game away.

The Cyclones executed their base offense and defense at a pretty solid level, but played with a governor on that limited their ability to put away a solid FCS opponent.”

Any game plan that morphs a rather strong, if not dominant effort, into needing breaks like the fortuitous fumble in 3OT to win isn’t a good plan. At the very least it is stubbornly needless risk, which has cost us in the past.
One or two things go ISU's way and the game is over in regulation without UNI ever really threatening. The gameplan was a hedged bet that the coaches believe will pay off in the long run, and they ended up correct, because despite all of ISU's errors and misfortune, they still won. Perhaps in hindsight they might admit to themselves that they played it too close to the vest, but Campbell teams always improve--perhaps there's a method to the madness.
 

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One or two things go ISU's way and the game is over in regulation without UNI ever really threatening. The gameplan was a hedged bet that the coaches believe will pay off in the long run, and they ended up correct, because despite all of ISU's errors and misfortune, they still won. Perhaps in hindsight they might admit to themselves that they played it too close to the vest, but Campbell teams always improve--perhaps there's a method to the madness.
That is the point. We played well as a team as superior personnel generally does, but due to a very small amount of plays went to 3OTs. One or two plays different and UNI wins, too.

That’s a needlessly thin margin for error in part manufactured by our game plan. If you’re going to win by trying to commit less mistakes than the opponent, which isn’t a great plan for UNI imo, it helps to try to facilitate the other team in making mistakes.
 
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Imo his comments are saying that despite the score and near disaster, we’re a good team that nearly intentionally risked losing to an overmatched opponent. Is that a good game plan?

They didn’t start taking creative RPO shots in the red zone until OT when they realized they needed to put the game away.

The Cyclones executed their base offense and defense at a pretty solid level, but played with a governor on that limited their ability to put away a solid FCS opponent.”

Any game plan that morphs a rather strong, if not dominant effort, into needing breaks like the fortuitous fumble in 3OT to win isn’t a good plan. At the very least it is stubbornly needless risk, which has cost us in the past.

Poor English by me...
I meant that I agreed with his thoughts on the game plan.

I should have typed it out more clearly but I meant the game wasn't as bad as it seemed, just by looking at the score... The offense still moved the ball for the most part and the defense was pretty stout. I am in no way making the case that it was a good game plan, though I do think I understand what they originally set out to do.
 
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Sorry, did not want to scroll hundreds of posts nor start a new thread, so will ask here: did Will McDonald play Sat at LB at all? Realize Vance earned the 3rd LB spot, but was just curious if WM played.
 

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That is the point. We played well as a team as superior personnel generally does, but due to a very small amount of plays went to 3OTs. One or two plays different and UNI wins, too.

That’s a needlessly thin margin for error in part manufactured by our game plan. If you’re going to win by trying to commit less mistakes than the opponent, which isn’t a great plan for UNI imo, it helps to try to facilitate the other team in making mistakes.
We're still focused on the UNI game; the coaching staff is focused creating the best team over a long season. In the realm of possibilities, that game probably scored in the 95th percentile for UNI's part. Like I said, in hindsight, I'm sure the staff wouldn't want to cut it that close, but it still took extraordinary play from UNI and fluke proceedings just to give them a chance to win. Play with the same exact strategy 100 times, and I think ISU wins 95. They had no offense outside of McElvain making something up.

I want to beat UNI 100 out of 100 times, but I think the staff's record more than earns them the benefit of the doubt, in a game that ultimately will be remembered as a win, just like Drake last year.
 
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Sorry, did not want to scroll hundreds of posts nor start a new thread, so will ask here: did Will McDonald play Sat at LB at all? Realize Vance earned the 3rd LB spot, but was just curious if WM played.

He played some in the 2nd half. Heacock blew up on him after missing the QB when he went unblocked. He may have been a little tentative and out of position.
 

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