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Ceek82

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This is laughable.

Castille was indeed kicked off. However he was only kicked off after he failed more **** test for weed than Rickie Williams. 6th strike your out.

Tough on alcohol? I think Niles Paul has more booze related arrests than the entire current ISU roster. How many games has he missed?

Telafeather's drinking made Niles look like a member of the WCTU and he missed how many games?

Christansen missed how many games for playing hide my ring?

Who is the only school to claim a Heisman Trophy winner that is a felon.... but was convicted of his felony prior to winning the trophy?

Niles paul got two MIP's...and got suspended for one, I don't think there's any college in America with maybe the exception being BYU that couldn't have the same thing happen to them any given day.
 

Ceek82

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Christansen missed how many games for playing hide my ring?

Andy Christensen? I really didn't agree with letting him back on the team so I'll give you that one...to be fair though he was never convicted of any sexual assault type behavior, but...neither was Michael Jackson.
 

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Niles paul got two MIP's...and got suspended for one, I don't think there's any college in America with maybe the exception being BYU that couldn't have the same thing happen to them any given day.

Conratulations you answered 1 of my 5 questions. Wrong answer, but good effort.

I'll give you a chance to redeem your self for missing the one question you attempted to answer with a few follow-ups

How many games should a player miss when they are arrested for DUI?

And how many for a second alcohol related offense after said DUI?

Should law enforcement charge an under age person for public urination in addition to public intox if they are caught with their member out and peeing?

Does your answer change if the person plays college football?
 
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Ceek82

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Conratulations you answered 1 of my 5 questions. Wrong answer, but good effort.

As a follow-up to the Paul question, how many games should a player miss when they are arrested for DUI? And how many for a second alcohol offense after said DUI?

Niles paul was never charged for DUI...I believe the one you're referring to he was charged with wreckless driving and minor in possession...

You edited your post when I was replying, I will re-read.
 
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becrisgreg

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Niles paul was never charged for DUI...I believe the one you're referring to he was charged with wreckless driving and minor in possession...

You edited your post when I was replying, I will re-read.

Silly me how could I forget the 20-20 clarity of the blind eyes of justice in Lincoln.

Get popped, drive a car. Play FB, plea it down. Be interesting to see if the legal system is detroit is as forgiving for #93 as they were in Lincoln,
 

Ceek82

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Conratulations you answered 1 of my 5 questions. Wrong answer, but good effort.

I'll give you a chance to redeem your self for missing the one question you attempted to answer with a few follow-ups

How many games should a player miss when they are arrested for DUI?

And how many for a second alcohol related offense after said DUI?

Should law enforcement charge an under age person for public urination in addition to public intox if they are caught with their member out and peeing?

Does your answer change if the person plays college football?

1. I don't know, I think personally it would have a lot to do with whether or not it was during the football season, and when you say arrested do you mean charged? or just arrested, I think the penalty (in my opinion) should be stiffer if the individual was found guilty, though there are varying circumstances of course.
2. Again it's all about circumstance, if you're specifically referring to Niles Paul, I if it was during the season he should most certainly be suspended for a game or 3, (I'm going off of memory so forgive me if I'm making myself look stupid here) but I don't think that the punishment should be removal from the team.
3. I was bombed one time and got caught peeing behind a bar in downtown lincoln by a bicycle cop, he gave me a ticket for public urination but did not cite me for public intoxication, I'm not a lawyer so I don't know what the rules are here, but if the rule is "you're drunk in public, you get a ticket" then yes you should get both, I don't think that the law though at least not in Nebraska, they could give out 5000 tickets every thurs-sat night if that was the case.
4. My individual answer does not change, I'm not gonna change your mind about this obviously, my main point was that I don't think that Bo Pelini or Tom Osborne would really put any of these kids lives (physically or mentally) in jeopardy to further the football program, and I certainly don't think they're any more guilty of doing that than 99% of the programs out there. Sorry this is long.
 

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Agreed. We (ISU) dont have much room to talk as far as trying to win at the expense of a player, just wiki Jack Trice.

Even though I am very familiar with the Jack Trice story I checked it out to see what you were talking about. How is it ISU's fault that he was trampled by Minnesota players and died of internal injuries? Despite his claims that he was okay he was removed from the game and sent to the hospital. If you are referring to the broken collarbone, I guess you need to show me when it was discovered that he had indeed broken his collarbone on that second play. I'm sure that the ISU football team did not have a team doctor traveling with the squad back then. Was it discovered at the time or after he got to the hospital? If you have further knowledge of this, why send me to a website that doesn't have any of it?

That is very lame trying to sully the Jack Trice story.
 
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Ceek82

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Silly me how could I forget the 20-20 clarity of the blind eyes of justice in Lincoln.

Get popped, drive a car. Play FB, plea it down. Be interesting to see if the legal system is detroit is as forgiving for #93 as they were in Lincoln,

they gave suh a breath test as I believe someone just pointed out, he was avoiding a small furry animal, he's got a soft heart man, give him a break :rolleyes:
 

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1. I don't know, I think personally it would have a lot to do with whether or not it was during the football season, and when you say arrested do you mean charged? or just arrested, I think the penalty (in my opinion) should be stiffer if the individual was found guilty, though there are varying circumstances of course.
2. Again it's all about circumstance, if you're specifically referring to Niles Paul, I if it was during the season he should most certainly be suspended for a game or 3, (I'm going off of memory so forgive me if I'm making myself look stupid here) but I don't think that the punishment should be removal from the team.
3. I was bombed one time and got caught peeing behind a bar in downtown lincoln by a bicycle cop, he gave me a ticket for public urination but did not cite me for public intoxication, I'm not a lawyer so I don't know what the rules are here, but if the rule is "you're drunk in public, you get a ticket" then yes you should get both, I don't think that the law though at least not in Nebraska, they could give out 5000 tickets every thurs-sat night if that was the case.
4. My individual answer does not change, I'm not gonna change your mind about this obviously, my main point was that I don't think that Bo Pelini or Tom Osborne would really put any of these kids lives (physically or mentally) in jeopardy to further the football program, and I certainly don't think they're any more guilty of doing that than 99% of the programs out there. Sorry this is long.

I appreciate your response. I really didn't want to get into a peeing contest over the lack of punishment for Niles Paul 2nd offense in 14 months as it really is not a big deal to me.

What I really want is a response to your laughable assertion of using the Castelle dismissal as badge of honor on the discipline front. And comments on Johny the Jet's felony.
 

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He will not be as mobile so that will help a lot for the defense, and he is not good at throwing the ball so that is another good thing. Will zac lee start because martinez will not me as mobile and zac is better at throwing the ball.
 

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I appreciate your response. I really didn't want to get into a peeing contest over the lack of punishment for Niles Paul 2nd offense in 14 months as it really is not a big deal to me.

What I really want is a response to your laughable assertion of using the Castelle dismissal as badge of honor on the discipline front. And comments on Johny the Jet's felony.

While I am still going from memory on castille, I wasn't aware of how many times he had "issues" before they actually cut him, if he indeed was cited/arrested several times before hand then he probably should have been cut before they actually cut him, if that's the point you're trying to make then I agree with you.

I am not going to give an opinion on Johnny Rodgers felony charge for a couple reasons.
1. I wasn't alive
2. I am pretty certain that the same things wouldn't have happened in this day and age, I don't think they would let a felon win the heisman trophy.

Maybe you're making the point that husker fans shouldn't just crown him the king of huskers because of this felony charge, and to a certain extent I agree with you, but I doubt that most husker fans even know it happened...maybe that's a commentary on how kNowledgeable some of us are..lol
 

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While I am still going from memory on castille, I wasn't aware of how many times he had "issues" before they actually cut him, if he indeed was cited/arrested several times before hand then he probably should have been cut before they actually cut him, if that's the point you're trying to make then I agree with you.

I am not going to give an opinion on Johnny Rodgers felony charge for a couple reasons.
1. I wasn't alive
2. I am pretty certain that the same things wouldn't have happened in this day and age, I don't think they would let a felon win the heisman trophy.

Maybe you're making the point that husker fans shouldn't just crown him the king of huskers because of this felony charge, and to a certain extent I agree with you, but I doubt that most husker fans even know it happened...maybe that's a commentary on how kNowledgeable some of us are..lol

Only if Johnny had used the sker logic on letting guys who beat up their girlfriend and armed robbers play - we likely would have won a national championship in basketball with Mack, Buagh, Vic, and Woods!
 

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This is laughable.

Castille was indeed kicked off. However he was only kicked off after he failed more **** test for weed than Rickie Williams. 6th strike your out.

Tough on alcohol? I think Niles Paul has more booze related arrests than the entire current ISU roster. How many games has he missed?

Telafeather's drinking made Niles look like a member of the WCTU and he missed how many games?

Christansen missed how many games for playing hide my ring?

Who is the only school to claim a Heisman Trophy winner that is a felon.... but was convicted of his felony prior to winning the trophy?

1. You have apparently bought into the rumors about Castille. A popular rumor around Nebraska is what you have assumed.
2. Niles Paul missed all of 2009 spring practice for a OWI and was punished over this summer for a public intoxication. Two alcohol offenses and zero games missed.
3. Teafatiller was a P.O.S. He did miss a few games, but the treatment of him does baffle me. He wasn't even really a contributor, but he was kept on the team for some reason. I believe he had 3 alcohol related offenses, maybe 4.
4. Andy Christensen missed an entire season while his case was in trial. He was found to be not guilty and was allowed back on the team after being suspended for a year. He didn't start and really didn't play much his final year after being reinstated.
5. Johnny Rogers issue is nearly 40 years old.


I'll throw in the case of Cody Glenn too. Starting linebacker in 2008 that was kicked off the team for the year after an unknown offense. Rumors about what that was too, but Bo didn't wait for the legal department to step in. He booted him for the year, which was about 8 games remaining.
When Suh had his accident last year he was given a field sobriety and breathalyser test. He passed the filed sobriety and his b.a.c. was under the legal limit. Why should he have been suspended?
 

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Im surprised because it is nebraska and im sure they think they could beat us with there 3rd string players
 

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