Week 1 Semi-Official CFP poll Thread

JohnnyFive

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My questions are Alabama being ahead of Florida, Baylor being ahead of Michigan State, and Iowa being ahead of Memphis. Otherwise they got it right. Clemson, LSU, Notre Dame are in the right place.
 

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well, other than play a team that will be in the playoff top four (whether it's OSU or MSU).

If Iowa loses, they'll tumble down the rankings for sure but probably not quite that far, depending on how bad the loss is. For instance, I doubt they'll drop past Northwestern who they destroyed on their home field and has fewer losses than.


As to the rankings, I'm not sure what criteria they could have used for these rankings. They obviously didn't go by the results on the field, otherwise MSU is in the top 4 with one of the best wins of anyone in the discussion and OSU and Bama aren't. They couldn't have went just by the eye test, otherwise why wouldn't TCU and Baylor be ranked higher?

So they must have used the ole put in as many big brand teams as we can method. At least there weren't three SEC teams listed like there was last year.

I agree on that. The policy seems to be "rank the brand names as high as we can" and then use inconsistent logic to justify it. Team X is there because of a quality win. Team Y is there because they pass the eye test. Team Z is their because they have quality losses despite having no good wins. Team Q is there because Barry Alvarez told us so.
 

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How about dropping them from clear #2 to end last year to #8 this year without losing a game?

If you say "prove it" Ohio State and TCU are the top teams right now...yet TCU is barely in the top 10.

TCU's SOS is terrible right now so I have no problem with where them or Baylor sit. Each will play 3 Top 15 teams before the season is over.
 

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TCU's SOS is terrible right now so I have no problem with where them or Baylor sit. Each will play 3 Top 15 teams before the season is over.

Their SOS is 15 spots higher than Ohio State's. Why not have Ohio State 7th or 9th?

They finished 1-2 with Ohio State and everybody else was clearly playing worse football last year, then they play better teams than Ohio State and win in more dominant fashion generally, but OSU gets #3 and TCU gets #8?

TCU at #8 means the committee should have an official stance that they ignore last year and thus Ohio State's horrible schedule until the last two games should be just as big a deal as Baylor's easy early schedule.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
The committee needs to be more open about whatever SOS they use. I follow a ton of computer polls and nothing they say about SOS makes any sense according to any widely followed computer poll.
 
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Their SOS is 25 spots higher than Ohio State's.

They finished 1-2 with Ohio State and everybody else was clearly playing worse football last year, then they play better teams than Ohio State and win in more dominant fashion generally, but OSU gets #3 and TCU gets #8?

TCU at #8 means the committee should have an official stance that they ignore last year and thus Ohio State's horrible schedule until the last two games should be just as big a deal as Baylor's easy early schedule.

Fully agree with that, I have no problem with where Baylor and TCU are, but OSU should be right in the same range, not third. They have one decent win and it was at home against a very, very average Penn St team.
 

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Fully agree with that, I have no problem with where Baylor and TCU are, but OSU should be right in the same range, not third. They have one decent win and it was at home against a very, very average Penn St team.

There is flat out nothing in the observable world that shows Ohio State should be 5 spots ahead of TCU. Not computer numbers, not "let's consider last year", not "eye test", nothing.

Alabama in the top 4 with a loss makes more sense than Ohio State being drastically ahead of TCU.
 

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Only issue with the rankings is Florida at #10. Only loss is to the #2 Tigers. How are they not higher? And Alabama is #4 with a loss to a team who Florida Destroyed? Hmm..
 

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if Iowa goes 13-0 and doesn't make the playoffs I wouldn't care as long as they are in the ROSE Bowl. I know that sounds dumb but I still view the Rose as the big prize at the end of the tunnel and would much much rather they win the ROSE than lose in the playoffs. I could be very very happy with a 14-0 rose/B10 championship, heck I would probably even buy one those replica fake championship rings that the team would most certainly have made up. It still be the greatest season ever possible for us hawk fans.
 

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Their SOS is 15 spots higher than Ohio State's. Why not have Ohio State 7th or 9th?

They finished 1-2 with Ohio State and everybody else was clearly playing worse football last year, then they play better teams than Ohio State and win in more dominant fashion generally, but OSU gets #3 and TCU gets #8?

TCU at #8 means the committee should have an official stance that they ignore last year and thus Ohio State's horrible schedule until the last two games should be just as big a deal as Baylor's easy early schedule.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
The committee needs to be more open about whatever SOS they use. I follow a ton of computer polls and nothing they say about SOS makes any sense according to any widely followed computer poll.

It's pretty clear with Ohio State and Alabama that name recognition means something. At least in these early polls.
 

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on that note the committee has definitely sent the notice that the SEC doesn't lose they only have "non-wins" that are basically equal to a tie.

So if bama beats LSU then ole miss wins out and FLA beats ole miss that could result in a BAMA, ND, CLEM, FLA final 4 with a undefeated (sparty) B10 winner and undefeated (TCU/OKIEst) B12 possibly being left out with 3 other "name brand" 1 loss teams taking their place. how would that go over with the fans and media? chaos and burning pitch forks would be seen on every street corner
 

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on that note the committee has definitely sent the notice that the SEC doesn't lose they only have "non-wins" that are basically equal to a tie.

So if bama beats LSU then ole miss wins out and FLA beats ole miss that could result in a BAMA, ND, CLEM, FLA final 4 with a undefeated (sparty) B10 winner and undefeated (TCU/OKIEst) B12 possibly being left out with 3 other "name brand" 1 loss teams taking their place. how would that go over with the fans and media? chaos and burning pitch forks would be seen on every street corner

That would have been drastically less possible with 1/3 comp average, 1/3 coaches poll, 1/3 harris poll. The only reason the committee exists is to manipulate things for money and power, it has nothing to do with picking the best 4 teams.
 

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