Perhaps the last five years. The five prior contained some of the best in the history of FB, MBB and WBB.
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Perhaps the last five years. The five prior contained some of the best in the history of FB, MBB and WBB.
How does K-State or Texas Tech bring in dollars? They don't (compared to the big wigs)....not sure why it's pick on ISU day.
Why not? We (ISU fans) allow the locals to pick on us. If we are not committed enough to change that, why would national people stop?
Texas tech and KSU both have a big brother to protect them somewhat. Our sibling would be hung out to dry if they tried to tie themselves to us. We are more attractive than KSU and not too far behind Tech (their biggest advantage is what state they are in as we trump them academically). Without KU and Texas they are in the same boat we are. and if Iowa wasn't already in the Big10 they would be in the same boat too.
Why can't we give the texa$ teams the boot?.....along with their number 1 fan, Dan Beebe.......Last time I checked....Im sure Nebraska would appreciate that, missouri wouldn't feel as much like "the short guy with the huge mouth that causes the fight".....But they would in general because they're Missouri :biglaugh:.....Given the subtractions, they'd still be on par with the ACC in terms of Football, Better than the Pac 10 and SEC for basketball as of now....and for TV sets which apparently is the case, there'd be Oklahoma City, St. Louis, Kansas City, Denver, Des Moines, and Omaha....
You want to save the Big 12? Then you should do what should have been done from the start...equal revenue sharing. That's what makes a conference strong and healthy. Having the disparity that is in the Big 12 will always leave it succeptible to cherry picking. I hate to say it but schools like Baylor, ISU, and KSU just see the dollar signs and they sign their soul away to schools like Texas and Oklahoma. There is no solidarity amongst the schools because the conference is set up as everyone for themselves. I am not rooting for the dismantling of the Big 12 because it will likely be a net negative for ISU. With that said, there are scenarios where ISU could end up in a situation that just might work. I would almost rather be in a lesser conference with equal footing rather than fighting for our lives all the time.
I wish some of these idiots would do some research before they attempt to use logic. Iowa State may not be that attractive from a TV perspective, but at least they reside in a state of 3m people and could bring those potential viewers to the table.
Nebraska has a population of 1.8m while Kansas has a population of 2.8m. If a conference takes KU, they don't need KSU to get those 2.8m.
These opinions have more to do with the flavor of the month. KSU prior to Bill Snyder was the armpit of college football, and may be on a slow ride back to that status.
The sad thing for ISU is that I believe Paul Rhoads will be to ISU what Hayden Fry was to Iowa, and Bill Snyder was to KSU. If this expansion mania were to have blossomed five years from now we may actually be a far more attractive school. We finally seem to have the right pieces in place to take a step up. We just need time to prove it.
Boise State is a classic example. Idaho has a population of 1.5m, yet due to there recent success they are perceived by sports fans to be an attractive school. What happens to Boise when Chris Peterson leaves? Success is very cyclical for schools in small population areas, and always will be. It is too bad for ISU that this expansion mania is occurring during a cyclically tough period for ISU.
Nebraska has a population of 1.8m while Kansas has a population of 2.8m. If a conference takes KU, they don't need KSU to get those 2.8m.
These opinions have more to do with the flavor of the month. KSU prior to Bill Snyder was the armpit of college football, and may be on a slow ride back to that status.
The sad thing for ISU is that I believe Paul Rhoads will be to ISU what Hayden Fry was to Iowa, and Bill Snyder was to KSU. If this expansion mania were to have blossomed five years from now we may actually be a far more attractive school. We finally seem to have the right pieces in place to take a step up. We just need time to prove it.
Boise State is a classic example. Idaho has a population of 1.5m, yet due to there recent success they are perceived by sports fans to be an attractive school. What happens to Boise when Chris Peterson leaves? Success is very cyclical for schools in small population areas, and always will be. It is too bad for ISU that this expansion mania is occurring during a cyclically tough period for ISU.
ISU has right now in Paul Rhoads and Fred Hoiberg two young coaches that want to be here. And coaches that can bring a sustained level of success to their programs. The trick, is for ISU to somehow land themselves in some sort of BCS type conference. Be that keeping the Big 12 together, or making a new version of the MWC into a major national player. I don't want to see a Missouri Valley type league for ISU. Any step down and it will be impossible to pay coaching staffs what we need to and impossible to recruit properly. This is all coming at exactly the wrong time for ISU.
The old set up in college football was perfect for a small school to bring in the right type of coach and build themselves a program. With the super conference idea that is on the verge of happening we will see a set of blue bloods built up with no chance for other schools to join their party. I don't like it.
Agreed. The USC's, UT's and Florida's of the world would love a 64 team league so that they wouldn't have to share with the Wazzou's, ISU's, and Miss St.'s of the world. I know it's been stated a million times but if the first domino falls this is where CFB is headed.
And it happened at ISU with John Majors and Earle Bruce precisely because at the time the Big 8 was a major conference. IMO the exact same thing is happening right now at ISU with CPR. He, Wally and Herman are here because they want to see the little guy succeed in the big time conference.
I suppose, in the end, if you are a fan you are a fan. It shouldn't matter where ISU is playing. No matter what the future holds, I suspect Jack Trice will be full during September games and be half to 3/4 full during by late October - early November games. I don't think it will matter what conference we are in. I've seen that since the early 80's, I would think that will continue into the future.
Then again, I am a fan of college football. I don't care if I am watching D1, D1-AA, D2 or D3. I probably spend more weekends at D3 games than D1. Hopefully, there are others out there that feel that way.
Then again, I am a fan of college football. I don't care if I am watching D1, D1-AA, D2 or D3. I probably spend more weekends at D3 games than D1. Hopefully, there are others out there that feel that way.
In the last 10 years only 5 teams from the Big 12 (NU, OU, Texas, OSU, & TT) have been to more bowl games then ISU. Our big problem is the years we didn't make bowl games we were really bad. That and we sucked the 20 years before 2000.
I'm very frustrated by the perception from the media that ISU brings nothing from a TV market perspective. For a conference other then the Big Ten, ISU does reside in a state with a population of 3m people.
Kansas has a population of 2.8m, Nebraska 1.8m and Oklahoma 3.7m.
I really don't understand the constant media perception that ISU offers no market share, yet the schools in these other states are somehow superior to ISU in that regard.
What does a KSU offer over a ISU? At least with ISU you get a school that adds a potential market share of 3m people. Due to the lack of professional teams, Iowans are pretty loyal to their collegiate sports.
I just get very frustrated by the perception that ISU has nothing to offer compared to a KSU or Baylor.
Kansas has a population of 2.8m, Nebraska 1.8m and Oklahoma 3.7m.
I really don't understand the constant media perception that ISU offers no market share, yet the schools in these other states are somehow superior to ISU in that regard.
What does a KSU offer over a ISU? At least with ISU you get a school that adds a potential market share of 3m people. Due to the lack of professional teams, Iowans are pretty loyal to their collegiate sports.
I just get very frustrated by the perception that ISU has nothing to offer compared to a KSU or Baylor.
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