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What's Gary Thompson saying......
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Another year or two to prove himself? He's already had 4. What baloney has he had to go through, other than what he's cause himself?
I don't see any reason to give him a pass for it. He recruits these guys. He coaches these guys. He can't keep these guys. Yes, it has impacted us in the win loss column, but people act like it isn't his fault. The fact is, he either isn't recruiting the right guys, or he is screwing up when they get here, otherwise we wouldn't have this turnover problem. He has had a couple bumps in the road with the NCAA on Lucca and MG, but those alone don't explain how bad we have been. And with Lucca bailing this year, I think it is now clear that he is in the "not one of the right guy" categories anyway. He never should have been here.
A coach is responsible for recruiting and retaining players just like on gamedays he is responsible for x's and o's. If he fails at that it isn't a reason to give him a pass, it is one more reason to show him the door.
I am getting tired of people defending the coach because he has just had bad luck with players. There are far too many incidents to just write them off as out of the coaches control. You look at players who depart not because they never play or because they violated the law or team rules those are the ones you can't write off. Those players would not be leaving if they had respect for the coach, the program and the future of the program. You can't attract better and better talent if you are not a program on the rise and you can't become a program on the rise if you are loosing players every year for other reasons than the typical attrition all teams deal with from year to year.
To have a guy like Justin Hamilton decide he is going to leave the program is inexcusable, good coaches and great programs don't have this happen to them over and over. If you can't hold onto the JH's for four years you will never build a team that can compete in the Big 12.
You can say I am a boo bird but I would say my opinion is closer to reality than someone who says things will get better next year and the coach will be here for a long time to come.
To have a guy like Justin Hamilton decide he is going to leave the program is inexcusable, good coaches and great programs don't have this happen to them over and over. If you can't hold onto the JH's for four years you will never build a team that can compete in the Big 12.
You can say I am a boo bird but I would say my opinion is closer to reality than someone who says things will get better next year and the coach will be here for a long time to come.
Oh, gee, I hope your right. I've really enjoyed 4 years of ineptitude, and I can't wait for 4 more. It makes perfect sense to reward someone who has lost twice as many players as he had graduated, and finished .500 the past 4 years.
It is too bad the working world doesn't work like the Iowa State Basketball world. It would be great to know you could do as poor of job as you possibly can, and not be held accountable for anything.
What if getting on board of a clearly sinking ship is not in the best interests of the future of the ISU MBB program?
Every year we keep this guy just sets us back another year, and the hole just gets deeper to dig out of.
I agree. In the business world, let's say Gmac took over a sales job in a territory that had produced $2mm in sales the previous year, and had consistently done that much or more for several years. Four years later, he's had annual sales of $1.7, 1.5, 1.6, 1.6mm, he would definitely be gone (if not sooner).
Certainly college athletics is a little different because you have to recruit and that doesn't happen overnight, but in basketball four years is definitely enough to judge recruiting. We going on year 5, and only have 10 of 13 scholarships filled.
AND most importantly, in 4 years I can't say that I've ever seen anything from him or his teams to make me think that the future looks bright. Good coaches will show flashes of the future within the first couple years.
We haven't seen that with Gmac.
If he has another year like this year in 2010-2011 then Id be curious to see if you still think that next year at this time.
...realized that when Gilstrap and Brackins weren't coming back, our team was going to struggle next year. Now with Ham too we are really going no need help. Only thing now is to rely on the fact that mcd still cares about isu and the players and knows BB, but is going to have to really pick it up and do some miracle coaching to be competive next year.
Don't worry next year is year #1 so the W/L ratio doesn't matter. Character Counts! (as at least 5 or 6 W's)
I was on board until Sat. afternoon when I learned that Ham left. Mac needs a miracle next season to get the fans back. I'm considering get women season tickets next year.
Agreed. And just because a player, publicly says "I'm leaving because X" doesn't mean there isn't a lot more to the story.
Of course no one is going to come out and say "I can't stand my coach, so I'm leaving".
Well, guys like Wes Johnson have pretty much been saying "I can't stand Greg McDermott"
And I've spoken to members of the Tokyo and San Francisco GIANTS. They are also NOT happy!
that his sleepwalking problem he had in the past has comeback and is even worse since he does it at Hilton during games now.
Yea - all this time we've been bagging on Wes for being dishonest when in reality he's the only one who left that was honest and gave the real reason
