Where is Surly? Let’s discuss Bruce
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It is unfathomable how he doesn't get a coaching box violation technical every single game. Some officials are obsessed with the length of the coaching box and are quick to give a warning or technical for going past the end of it while ignoring that the width of the coaching box ends at the sideline and will ignore a coach who spends the entire game on the playing surface.
I’m guessing to see Ivan Aurrecoechea. He’s from the same basketball academy as Brodziansky.
CycloneErik
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KSU had been in more NCAA's than KU up thru 1990. KSU had been in 20 to KU's 19 when KSU decided to throw all resources into football. (not my data)
Regular Season Conference Champions
KU-38
KSU-17
Conference Tournament Champions
KU-3
KSU-9
Final 4s
KU-8
KSU-4
Elite 8s
KU-11
KSU-11
Sweet 16
KU-12
KSU-15
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Conference tourneys didnt start until late 70s. And the data he gave was only through 1990.
But between 1977 and 1990 KSU only won 2 (1977, 1980), not 9. And they only made 3 more finals (1978, 1981, 1988). KU made 2 more finals.
Predictably, Surly's data is incorrect.
From 1947 to 1979, the Big 7/8 held a Holiday Tournament. SMU was a non-member in 1947 but was invited to the Tournament and won the thing. Of the 33 Holiday Tournaments that were played, KU won 13, KSU won 7 (ISU won 2).
The Big 8 post-season tournament didn't start until 1977. Guess there were three years when both a Holiday and a post-season tournament were held? Weird.
Of the 20 post-season tournaments that were played, KU won 4, KSU won 2 (ISU won the last one in 1996). So up until 1990, KU had won 16 (excluding the '92 title), KSU had won 9.
Well done Surly, you nailed the KSU # and were only 13 off of KU's number.
I don't know about you guys, but watching KSU wears me out, because Weber just simply can't hold still. I think he's trying to play for them. No coach I've ever seen is more into the game.
Probably shouldn't count 'holiday tournaments' because they had no meaning other than being a pre-conference get together. Anyway, here are the actual regular season titles up to 1990.
Ku 38 1907-08 • 1908-09 • 1909-10 • 1910-11 • 1911-12 • 1913-14 •
1914-15 • 1921-22 • 1922-23 • 1923-24 • 1924-25 • 1925-26 •
1926-27 • 1930-31 • 1931-32 • 1932-33 • 1933-34 • 1935-36 •
1936-37 • 1937-38 • 1939-40 • 1940-41 • 1941-42 • 1942-43 •
1945-46 • 1949-50 • 1951-52 • 1952-53 • 1953-54 • 1956-57 •
1959-60 • 1965-66 • 1966-67 • 1970-71 • 1973-74 • 1974-75 •
1977-78 • 1985-86
K-State 17 1916-17 • 1918-19 • 1947-48 • 1949-50 • 1950-51 • 1955-56 •
1957-58 • 1958-59 • 1959-60 • 1960-61 • 1962-63 • 1963-64 •
1967-68 • 1969-70 • 1971-72 • 1972-73 • 1976-77
Ku 38 1907-08 • 1908-09 • 1909-10 • 1910-11 • 1911-12 • 1913-14 •
1914-15 • 1921-22 • 1922-23 • 1923-24 • 1924-25 • 1925-26 •
1926-27 • 1930-31 • 1931-32 • 1932-33 • 1933-34 • 1935-36 •
1936-37 • 1937-38 • 1939-40 • 1940-41 • 1941-42 • 1942-43 •
1945-46 • 1949-50 • 1951-52 • 1952-53 • 1953-54 • 1956-57 •
1959-60 • 1965-66 • 1966-67 • 1970-71 • 1973-74 • 1974-75 •
1977-78 • 1985-86
K-State 17 1916-17 • 1918-19 • 1947-48 • 1949-50 • 1950-51 • 1955-56 •
1957-58 • 1958-59 • 1959-60 • 1960-61 • 1962-63 • 1963-64 •
1967-68 • 1969-70 • 1971-72 • 1972-73 • 1976-77
And he never shuts up. At some point you have to let the guys execute what you have taught them in practice.
