NFL: Who should Vikings pick up at QB?
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Stupid. They got the most injury prone QB and their pass-blocking has still been highly suspect.
Wow. I was gonna post earlier that I read that the Eagles weren't interested in trading Bradford. I've never been a fan but we had to do something. We definitely gave up way too much.
It was definitely a seller's market at this time. I would've preferred they wait until all the cuts were done to see who was out there.
Not sure how I feel about this...if Bradford can stay healthy it might pay off (although I don't like that they gave up a 1st rounder...but I don't think they were going to get a quality starter without a 1st).
But I have about as much confidence in Bradford staying healthy throughout the whole season as I did Hill.
Not sure how I feel about this...if Bradford can stay healthy it might pay off (although I don't like that they gave up a 1st rounder...but I don't think they were going to get a quality starter without a 1st).
But I have about as much confidence in Bradford staying healthy throughout the whole season as I did Hill.
I'm a sunshine pumper, so take my opinions on this with a grain of salt.
Bradford has always been disappointing, but look who he has played with.
RBs: He had Steven Jackson for his first 3 years, but Jacksons best year is worse that Peterson's worst year. After that it was Zac Stacy. In Philly, Bradford ran the wacky offense.
Bradford has had rushing offenses ranked 25, 23, 19, 19, 20, 14. During the same timeframe with Petersen, Vikings have been 10, 4, 2, 8, 4. Bradford has never had to be a game manager. He has been required to carry the load for teams with poor running games.
Luckily Bradford was surrounded by amazing wide receivers like Danny Amendola, Brandon Gibson, Brandon Lloyd, Chris Givens, Jared Cook, Tavon Austin, Jordan Matthews, Zach Ertz. There are 2 or 3 potential Hall of Famers in there.
Seriously, though, what a garbage group of receivers he's been surrounded with. When you have no running game and Danny Amendola is the best WR you've played with, not wonder you're going to have lackluster stats.
Oh, one last thing. The best defense Bradford ever had him was ranked 12th in the league in scoring defense and 14th in total defense. Vikings last year were 5th in scoring defense.
So Bradford will have a far better Rushing game, a better defense and recievers just as good as any others he has played with.
First round pick is a lot to give up, but hopefully its a bottom 5 pick.
Bradford has always been disappointing, but look who he has played with.
RBs: He had Steven Jackson for his first 3 years, but Jacksons best year is worse that Peterson's worst year. After that it was Zac Stacy. In Philly, Bradford ran the wacky offense.
Bradford has had rushing offenses ranked 25, 23, 19, 19, 20, 14. During the same timeframe with Petersen, Vikings have been 10, 4, 2, 8, 4. Bradford has never had to be a game manager. He has been required to carry the load for teams with poor running games.
Luckily Bradford was surrounded by amazing wide receivers like Danny Amendola, Brandon Gibson, Brandon Lloyd, Chris Givens, Jared Cook, Tavon Austin, Jordan Matthews, Zach Ertz. There are 2 or 3 potential Hall of Famers in there.
Seriously, though, what a garbage group of receivers he's been surrounded with. When you have no running game and Danny Amendola is the best WR you've played with, not wonder you're going to have lackluster stats.
Oh, one last thing. The best defense Bradford ever had him was ranked 12th in the league in scoring defense and 14th in total defense. Vikings last year were 5th in scoring defense.
So Bradford will have a far better Rushing game, a better defense and recievers just as good as any others he has played with.
First round pick is a lot to give up, but hopefully its a bottom 5 pick.
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- Mar 27, 2006
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Bradford cost a lot. no way to spin that. It's a heck of a lot to give up. But, he's a starting caliber qb, and his contract, while expensive, is the right length. At two years, they'll be able to start him this year, and even keep him around next year if Teddy isn't ready to go.
My verdict is one of amazement at the price they paid, but also subdued optimism, because I feel like they're in a better position to win games this year than they would have been with 36 year old Hill at the helm.
My verdict is one of amazement at the price they paid, but also subdued optimism, because I feel like they're in a better position to win games this year than they would have been with 36 year old Hill at the helm.
I feel like this is a huuuuge mistake long term, they're not winning the Super Bowl this year by adding Bradford. A 1st and a 4th for a guy that will play for your team for 1 year assuming Bridgewater comes back healthy?
- Mar 27, 2006
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That's the thing. There's a lot of speculation that Bridgewater won't be back after just one year. His status for 2017 is in jeopardy as well.
Even if he's not back till 2018, what upside does this have? Maybe they make the playoffs this year instead of missing them? Has Bradford ever been a good NFL quarterback? Maybe, maaaaaybe a 2nd and a 4th would have been verging on ok, although apparently the 4th round in 2018 can become a 2nd or 3rd based on the Vikings performance. Unless that performance is a Super Bowl win I can't imagine giving up a 1st and a 2nd or 3rd for Bradford at this point.
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I'm coming around that this probably was the best move, and quite honestly, outside of o-line, what position needs to be addressed in the first round next year? Spielman will need to work harder in free agency and continue to find success with middle and late round draft picks.
Playing indoors and having AP should help Bradford, and he is a talented QB. I just worry that the o-line won't be able to protect him and keep him healthy for 16 games.
I'm coming around that this probably was the best move, and quite honestly, outside of o-line, what position needs to be addressed in the first round next year? Spielman will need to work harder in free agency and continue to find success with middle and late round draft picks.
Playing indoors and having AP should help Bradford, and he is a talented QB. I just worry that the o-line won't be able to protect him and keep him healthy for 16 games.
- Mar 27, 2006
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I fully admit, it's a big price tag. But it's also a week before the start of the season. Reports are saying, they inquired with other teams an found similarly high prices for other guys like Foles. they were going to pay more than market value regardless.
There may be other forces at work as well. They're opening a brand new stadium, and want it to be sucessful. Making the playoffs this year versus missing them, might be pretty important to them.
I like the trade for Minnesota. Bradford fits their system well, and he's been one of the best QBs against pressure in the NFL, so he masks their biggest deficiency (pass blocking). A first is a little rich, but Minnesota could be running up against cap issues soon with this young talent on defense anyway, and Adrian Peterson isn't getting any younger. They need a QB who can game manage to be competitive and in my opinion this trade now puts them even with Green Bay in the North.
Im ok with this, The Vikes may not win a super bowl with Bradford (provided he stays healthy) but I know he gives them a better chance than Hill.
Im ok with this, The Vikes may not win a super bowl with Bradford (provided he stays healthy) but I know he gives them a better chance than Hill.
Im ok with this, The Vikes may not win a super bowl with Bradford (provided he stays healthy) but I know he gives them a better chance than Hill.
Are you okay with this, @CycloneVet?
