Why is everyone blaming Richardson?

[GoClones123]

I kept waiting for them to roll the pocket in the 2nd half. I don't recall it happening. Can Sam make a throw on the run? He's got the wheels to move, it's not like he's Big Ben or something.

When Sam came out the first time against Kansas, and threw those touchdowns and we all were like Wow, they bootlegged at least on two of those. My point is....if you know your OL is a turnstyle, game plan accordingly. It seems to me Sam has problems seeing the middle of the field and perhaps moving him out by design with a bootleg could make him feel more comfortable and get a better View of his options. ANYTHING other than stand into the Defensive line to throw. That's why I cannot figure out if it's SR or the coaching at times.

I've been to both games...our WR's on a lot of plays are wide open deep, the coaching staff just needs to Figure out how to create the vision and the time to hit them.

 

[Rabbuk]

Not sure Sam has improved in his time at ISU seems to be the same QB he was when he came in. Which is on the staff.

 

[isuforlife]

63 yards rushing! what the hell that's is reason to fire everyone

 

[kingcy]

Intangibles in a QB are important. Guys who have them find ways to carry their team. When ISU had the ball late in the 4th, Sam had a chance to hit Bundrage going down the sideline, he has step or 2 on the defender and the ball was not even close. That has defined Sam's career.

Its not always about collective stats, its about making a critical play at a time when you need it.

Look at Iowa, Ruddock was the QB last year, a veteran guy and their offense was challenged.People said it was coaching, Beathard comes in and their offense is night and day better. Same coaches though..


People need to realize sometimes you need to be able to stretch the field to open up the run a bit more.

This. The only thing he really does well it pass the ball on short routes under 10 yards and to the right. He has issues getting the ball out quick on are what are suppose to be quick passes. He has issues hitting deep passes.. Pretty easy for a D to defend that. All a Defense really has to do to stop this offense is attack the line of scrimmage, causing the run game to be what it is and forcing Sam to make throws he isn't comfortable with throwing.

 

[Wesley]

SR needs to play better for ISU to win. I know that isn't fair, but a QB that can make plays can mask a lot of the problems we are seeing with the offense. I think he could use some help with better play calling too. There are plenty of talented WRs on this team and they cannot all be double covered. l am sure there were guys wide open yesterday, and Sam just missed them, but it is the coach's responsibility to identify what the other team's defense is doing and figure out how to attack it. They also need to figure out a way to take advantage of the tall, athletic WRs on the team.

Looks like running out of the pocket and getting hurt did not work last year. Looks like staying in the pocket and watching the defense hands flail around is not working either.

 

[67CY]

Not sure Sam has improved in his time at ISU seems to be the same QB he was when he came in. Which is on the staff.

I can't recall any QB or running back improving under CPR.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Intangibles in a QB are important. Guys who have them find ways to carry their team. When ISU had the ball late in the 4th, Sam had a chance to hit Bundrage going down the sideline, he has step or 2 on the defender and the ball was not even close. That has defined Sam's career.

Its not always about collective stats, its about making a critical play at a time when you need it.

Look at Iowa, Ruddock was the QB last year, a veteran guy and their offense was challenged.People said it was coaching, Beathard comes in and their offense is night and day better. Same coaches though..


People need to realize sometimes you need to be able to stretch the field to open up the run a bit more.

Lazard also dropped a ball that hit him in the hands. Tough catch, but one you need to make.
More than Sam not hitting guys are the issues with the routes we run and the WR inability to get open, make plays, and sometimes even catch the ball. It has been that way for each season under Rhoads.

The running backs lack vision and don't break tackles.

The line- does anything even need to be said?

We **** ourselves by trying to use a horizontal passing game function as a run game, thereby ending up having neither a run game or pass game. 6 years of this ****, wasting some talent other coaches could have winning records with.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Not sure Sam has improved in his time at ISU seems to be the same QB he was when he came in. Which is on the staff.

Oh no I'm sure he had way more confidence and self-belief when he came in. He's been beaten down pretty hard the past few years. I feel for SR because it's obviously not all on him but it's time to try something new. That's football.

 

[fsanford]

Lazard also dropped a ball that hit him in the hands. Tough catch, but one you need to make.
More than Sam not hitting guys are the issues with the routes we run and the WR in ability to get open.

Thing is Sam has a lot of tough catch throws And maybe that its about getting open or maybe about Sam not just being able to make the throw where it needs to be.


It is what it is, Sam is gonna be the qb going forward, receiver talent is there, just need things to click

And yes running game would help. That is why I wish ISU would just dump the pistol.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Thing is Sam has a lot of tough catch throws And maybe that its about getting open or maybe about Sam not just being able to make the throw where it needs to be.

It is what it is, Sam is gonna be the qb going forward, receiver talent is there, just need things to click.

All QBs do. That is what WRs need to do, although a ball hitting both your hands is not that tough.

Again Sam may be average, but the components and scheme around him are worse. People want to fool themselves into turning a single player into the problem just because he is not the answer. Few guys in the NFL would even be the answer,.

 

[Scott34]

All QBs do. That are what WRs need to do, although a ball hitting both your hands is not that tough.

Again Sam may be average, but the components and scheme around him are worse. People want to fool themselves into turning a single player into the problem just because he is not the answer. Few guys in the NFL would even be the answer,.

Ding ding ding! This is or was my point in posting this thread but never worded it correctly. Thanks for doing that!

 

[fsanford]

All QBs do. That are what WRs need to do, although a ball hitting both your hands is not that tough.

Again Sam may be average, but the components and scheme around him are worse. People want to fool themselves into turning a single player into the problem just because he is not the answer. Few guys in the NFL would even be the answer,.

I would love to put that to the test. Again I reference Iowa and the way they stuck with an average QB last year.
Granted its only 2 games, but either Davis got a lot smarter or the QB they have has a higher skill set. Unless you have some other explanation.



Maybe ISU does not have a higher skill set waiting in the wings.

Will just agree to disagree.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

I would love to put that to the test. Again I reference Iowa and the way they stuck with an average QB last year.
Granted its only 2 games, but either Davis got a lot smarter or the QB they have has a higher skill set. Unless you have some other explanation.



Maybe ISU does not have a higher skill set waiting in the wings.

Will just agree to disagree.

No one is arguing that. If we replaced SR with a very good QB we would be better. But how much so? Not very. Again, Sam is not the remedy to our problems, but that does not mean he is the problem. He is in fact, the least of our problems on offense.

Teams like Iowa and KSU are typically very good QB play away from being very good. CPR ball is a very good QB away from 4-8.

 

[Gunnerclone]

No one is arguing that. If we replaced SR with a very good QB we would be better. But how much so? Not very. Again, Sam is not the remedy to our problems, but that does not mean he is the problem. He is in fact, the least of our problems on offense.

Teams like Iowa and KSU are typically very good QB play away from being very good. CPR ball is a very good QB away from 4-8.

I agree with you on SR and what the difference would be this season but where I'm at with it is are we going to go in to next year with a guy that has less than 100 meaningful snaps or are we going to go in to next year with a QB that has actually started a few games? It's not about SR and it's not about this year. It's about the future for me.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

I agree with you on SR and what the difference would be this season but where I'm at with it is are we going to go in to next year with a guy that has less than 100 meaningful snaps or are we going to go in to next year with a QB that has actually started a few games? It's not about SR and it's not about this year. It's about the future for me.

I would have been fine redshirting all good seniors and playing guys for next year if I had confidence a new staff is upcoming. But that is an entirely different argument.

 

[Wesley]

Thing is Sam has a lot of tough catch throws And maybe that its about getting open or maybe about Sam not just being able to make the throw where it needs to be.


It is what it is, Sam is gonna be the qb going forward, receiver talent is there, just need things to click

And yes running game would help. That is why I wish ISU would just dump the pistol.

Sam is a starter and now we need a finisher.

 

[hoosman]

Our QB reminds me of Jay Cutler. Mobile, makes small plays, average stats, folds when the game is on the line or against key opponents. If CPR is holding Sam back to avoid injury, that is like guaranteeing losses now to avoid possible losses in the future. If he does get injured, we can use the time to prepare Lanning for next season - or maybe Lanning could show that he is already better than SBR - he can throw long and run with power.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

Still trying to comprehend why everyone is throwing Sam under the bus. From what I have seen so far is a line that isnt doing something the job they should be. The running backs seem to be non existent. Love how the quarterback is always the first one to catch all the heat even when there are way bigger issues with the offense.

For starters......none of the running backs are fifth years seniors. The O-line gave SR plenty of time to throw yesterday, plenty. And no one I have seen is throwing him under the bus. It is being called like it is being seen. For the last 3 years it's either he has been injured......because the O-line blows.....the recievers can't catch the ball, Messingham etc. etc. Well it's time, in his fifth season to start taking some of the heat. If he is the best we have.......so be it. But that is not exactly a shining endorsement to condition of this program going forward.

 

[Wesley]

For starters......none of the running backs are fifth years seniors. The O-line gave SR plenty of time to throw yesterday, plenty. And no one I have seen is throwing him under the bus. It is being called like it is being seen. For the last 3 years it's either he has been injured......because the O-line blows.....the recievers can't catch the ball, Messingham etc. etc. Well it's time, in his fifth season to start taking some of the heat. If he is the best we have.......so be it. But that is not exactly a shining endorsement to condition of this program going forward.

He use to be able to run for fifty yards a game. Now he is a 240 yard passer with no running.

 

[Wally86]

For starters......none of the running backs are fifth years seniors. The O-line gave SR plenty of time to throw yesterday, plenty. And no one I have seen is throwing him under the bus. It is being called like it is being seen. For the last 3 years it's either he has been injured......because the O-line blows.....the recievers can't catch the ball, Messingham etc. etc. Well it's time, in his fifth season to start taking some of the heat. If he is the best we have.......so be it. But that is not exactly a shining endorsement to condition of this program going forward.

agree. Would add too much zone read previous years. I can't see running zone read more than three times per game the way it has worked. Haven't blamed SR on previous years. He is now a fifth year senior with what is typically thought to be a great stable of recirevers. He has to throw well enough 10-30 yards down field to force the defense out of the box. If not we need to try something different.