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I was shocked DCG cancelled school, but hey, I had to call in so I could stay home with the kid. Dang.
 

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It has hardly begun. I got to thinking about these threads this morning. Do you demand to know exactly where a tornado path will be and when it will happen hours or days in advance? If so go ahead and wrongly flame away. If not consider having the same patience or understanding for winter weather.

That doesn't seem like an accurate comparison because summer storms are far more volatile than snow events. Wouldn't a better comparison be estimating the path, amount, and timing of a rain event vs a snow event?
 

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It has hardly begun. I got to thinking about these threads this morning. Do you demand to know exactly where a tornado path will be and when it will happen hours or days in advance? If so go ahead and wrongly flame away. If not consider having the same patience or understanding for winter weather.


I'd kindly remind you its a message board....overreaction is normal here. Look at the threads after a Cyclone loss.
 
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That doesn't seem like an accurate comparison because summer storms are far more volatile than snow events. Wouldn't a better comparison be estimating the path, amount, and timing of a rain event vs a snow event?

It is and it isn't. Do you care about tenths or hundredths of an inch of rain? That's what forecasting snow can be like due to available moisture, temps lower level temps/humidity it goes on and on. Both have their challenges but pretty much every meteorologist would probably agree that winter weather is harder to forecast. It's made worse by the fact that it impacts our lives more. "Oh darn I didn't get that half inch of rain I guess I will go for a run." "We didn't get the five inches of snow they forecast!!!"
 
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I was going to stay at home today due to the weather report this morning. Good things I ignored the weather reporters.
 

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I was going to stay at home today due to the weather report this morning. Good things I ignored the weather reporters.

My wife stayed home and she's loving it. It's been a 5 day weekend for her (PTO friday, Holiday Monday, Office closed today)
 
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Cyched

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My wife stayed home and she's loving it. It's been a 5 day weekend for her (PTO friday, Holiday Monday, Office closed today)

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It is and it isn't. Do you care about tenths or hundredths of an inch of rain? That's what forecasting snow can be like due to available moisture, temps lower level temps/humidity it goes on and on. Both have their challenges but pretty much every meteorologist would probably agree that winter weather is harder to forecast. It's made worse by the fact that it impacts our lives more. "Oh darn I didn't get that half inch of rain I guess I will go for a run." "We didn't get the five inches of snow they forecast!!!"

Yeah I understand and agree with your point on forecasting rain vs snow, I just thought the "predict the exact path and location of a tornado" was a bit off base and exaggerated.

You are spot on - we don't squabble one bit if we get .50" of rain instead of .75" but that difference of precipitation/moisture for a snow event is a larger amount due to the precip-accumulation factor.
 
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Yeah I understand and agree with your point on forecasting rain vs snow, I just thought the "predict the exact path and location of a tornado" was a bit off base and exaggerated.

You are spot on - we don't squabble one bit if we get .50" of rain instead of .75" but that difference of precipitation/moisture for a snow event is a larger amount due to the precip-accumulation factor.

It was an exaggeration but not a big one IMO especially when you are looking at it days in advance. I am obviously biased but I feel that both the broadcast and NWS mets have done a better job the last few years of showing broad probabilities in the preceding days and then narrowing it down as you get closer.

Thankfully there are smart people working to improve the forecasting of all types of weather. They need funding though and I fear for the future if we continue to slash budgets.
 
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Highway 5, I35, and I80 we fine from DSM to WDM. City street kinda slick.