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The Big 10's reasons for being interested in certain teams has nothing to do with smaller conferences reasons for wanting to pick up certain pieces.

You have no idea that the smaller conferences aren't interested in us except for a bunch of people posting on message boards.
 

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Did you not see my last post with the link??

It has to do with TV markets.

And how do those TV markets (viewership/raitings) get developed.

How many TV sets are in the state of Nebraska?

How can Notre Dame bring more TV sets to the table considering where they are located? (Look at a map and tell me.)

You are freeking crazy ******** to say that it has nothing to do with athletic performance.


Athletic performance comes first. The TV sets are the end results of this performance. How do you account for ND being independant all these years?

Do you really believe otherwise.
 

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You have no idea that the smaller conferences aren't interested in us except for a bunch of people posting on message boards.

And I'm not saying they aren't. I'm saying that public perception helps to create more options, which gives us slightly more control over our future.
 

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And how do those TV markets (viewership/raitings) get developed.

How many TV sets are in the state of Nebraska?

How can Notra Dame bring more TV sets to the table considering where they are located? (Look at a map and tell me.)

You are freeking crazy ******** to say that it has nothing to do with athletic performance.


Athletic performance comes first. The TV sets are the end results of this performance. How do you account for ND being independant all these years?

Do you really believe otherwise.

Of course your premise isn't false, but it's not the be all end all. If ISU wins a couple Big 12 titles in the past 10 years they are still left out to dry.

Key example: Kansas State.
 

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Of course your premise isn't false, but it's not the be all end all. If ISU wins a couple Big 12 titles in the past 10 years they are still left out to dry.

Key example: Kansas State.

We are not talking about just the past couple of years. We are talking about two historic football programs. Two historic football prgrams that have been year in and year out in the top ten of all programs. K State is crap. Anyone who thinks that athletics/football does not drive and is not driving this is stoooopid. ND anf Nebraska would not even be considered for the Big Ten if they did not have historically good football programs.
 

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And Iowa State is left out ONLY due to our lack of long term success?

I'm sure there's plenty to it, but KSU can't get an invite to a number of conferences because it's lacking AAU qualifications. Otherwise they're plenty attractive to the smaller conferences.
 

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We are not talking about just the past couple of years. We are talking about two historic football programs. Two historic football prgrams that have been year in and year out in the top ten of all programs. K State is crap. Anyone who thinks that athletics/football does not drive and is not driving this is stoooopid. ND anf Nebraska would not even be considered for the Big Ten if they did not have historically good football programs.

So, you consider Rutgers and Connecticut historically good football programs?
 

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BINGO. Finally you are getting it. Long term success first, everything else will follow.

I enjoy your passive aggression. As you say, "Still waiting..." for your answer on those powerful football programs at Rutgers and Connecticut that the Big Ten is believed to be interested in.
 

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So, you consider Rutgers and Connecticut historically good football programs?

I have no idea. And in all honestly I don't care.

The topic at hand is Nebraska being invited to the Big 10 and you making an asinine statement that it has nothing to do with athletics.

Please show everyone where Rutgers and or U-Conn has an invite to the Big 10. PLEASE SHOW US.
 

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I have no idea. And in all honestly I don't care.

The topic at hand is Nebraska being invited to the Big 10 and you making an asinine statement that it has nothing to do with athletics.

Please show everyone where Rutgers and or U-Conn has an invite to the Big 10. PLEASE SHOW US.

We don't have a story where Nebraska has an invite to the Big 10 either. It's still all just second hand and I can find several stories (just tonight) that Rutgers and Connecticut are being invited as well.

Let's talk again when the Big Ten mega-conference is formed.
 

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I enjoy your passive aggression. As you say, "Still waiting..." for your answer on those powerful football programs at Rutgers and Connecticut that the Big Ten is believed to be interested in.

And I'm still waiting for you to show me all the extra TV sets that will be increased in the states of Indiana and Nebraska.
 

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We don't have a story where Nebraska has an invite to the Big 10 either just rumors and I can find several rumors (just tonight) that Rutgers and Connecticut are being invited as well.

Let's talk again when the Big Ten mega-conference is formed.

Yes we do. Multiple sources are reporting that Nebraska does in fact have an invite to join the Big Ten.

Please explain how Nebraska University being in a state with 35% less TV sets than the state of Iowa can get an invite to the Big Ten over ISU while athletic success has nothing to do with it.
 
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We don't have a story where Nebraska has an invite to the Big 10 either. It's still all just second hand and I can find several stories (just tonight) that Rutgers and Connecticut are being invited as well.

Let's talk again when the Big Ten mega-conference is formed.


I'm still waiting for you to answer how athletics has nothing to do with it. :biglaugh:
 

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if not for a couple of ill-timed misses by Shaggy for two straight years? I've never been one to put any blame on him, and I never will... just wondering if our situation today would be better if we'd won the north those years.

short answer: no
long answer: no it would not be
 

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Please explain how Nebraska University being in a state with 35% less TV sets than the state of Iowa can get an invite to the Big Ten over ISU while athletic success has nothing to do with it.

Holy cow buddy, obsess much? Nebraska's addition of television sets to the Big Ten Network is due to its national following which I ALREADY said in this very thread is helped out by its long term athletic success. I never said it had NOTHING to do with it. My comment about "very little to do with athletic success" was specifically in regards to the original posters idea that Iowa State would be in the debate if we had some more success the past few years.

Additionally, the Big Ten is not interested in moving into the New York, St. Louis, and Kansas City markets because of those local teams long storied histories in football. Even the Notre Dame argument isn't as good because that University has a huge alumni base spread out over the entire nation.