I think your sanity would have been questioned seeing as we had sucked while he was here.
Would you hold it against Rhoads if he left for a better job?
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I think your sanity would have been questioned seeing as we had sucked while he was here.
Paul is a perfect fit for ISU right now, so I hope that we don't see him leave any time soon.
If he has a good 6-7 year run with ISU, that is all I could ask from him, should bigger programs come calling.
At some point though, if you want to elevate your position in the world of college football, you need a successful coach that stays for 10-15 years. I would like nothing more than for CPR to stay for 20 years, and put ISU on the football map, similar to what Fry did at Iowa.
If he has a good 6-7 year run with ISU, that is all I could ask from him, should bigger programs come calling.
At some point though, if you want to elevate your position in the world of college football, you need a successful coach that stays for 10-15 years. I would like nothing more than for CPR to stay for 20 years, and put ISU on the football map, similar to what Fry did at Iowa.
We're talking about Rhoads here, not Pollard - I know it is difficult for you, but try to stay focused!
He asked if we would be ****** if a coach left for a better job. That is exactly what Chizik did so yes, let's pretend it is the same thing because that is what he asked.
One of the most reasonable things I have ever read from a fan. Not an ISU fan mind you, all fans including and especially Iowa's. We all think these people owe us something "more" and are superhuman and not prone to some of the same pressures, insecurities, doubts, wants that we are. It is the main thing that frustrates me with fans. The inability to look outside their own agenda and see the world as it is for us all.
With that said it would take a 2 million dollar a year raise for him to leave and that isn't likley to happen right now. Besides he seems to fit perfectly in Ames. He is a good coach and a good man and that isn't going to change because some "fans" think he did something against them.
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I think you could find a way to turn any thread into a Pollard bashing!
OK, here is the challenge: A thread on Dolly Parton's cup size. Let's see you turn that into a Pollard bashing.
This is right on the money.
He's not an Iowa State grad or anything.
He has to do what's best for him and his career. Coaching is a business. Not a lot of room for loyalty. Unfortunately, Iowa State is never going to be a marquee job.
What? One year is not giving your heart and soul. Until he struggles through tough times and persevers he has nbot given his heart and soul. This takes time energy and multiple years.
Not being a jerk here just asking a real question. What did he say exactly? I am NOT going to leave ISU under ANY circumstance no matter what? That seems like the only thing he could say that would make him a liar.
Iowa fans continually rag on KF for his style in such regards but it is because he doesn't want to put himself in said trick bag. I don't really ever remember seeing PR make any hard and fast statements. Again I'd be shocked if he left but this is a pet peeve of mine. Fans who think that because someone says....."this is a great job, my dream job" or......"I can't see myself going somewhere else right now" That does not make anyone a liar. Things change and situations arise.
If my Boss asked me tomorrow I'd tell him I wasn't looking for a job and I wouldn't be. I love my job and I anticipate being there for 6 more years. Bit it is the car business and things happen and offers come. Me leaving wouldn't make me a lair and I too take such things VERY seriously. I'd rather die than lie to anyone. I think it is weak & the greatest of all sins from which all others grow. The problem is we all hear what we want to hear.
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Bottom Line: Rhoads wants to be here.
McCarney wanted to be here. Some other (maybe not so successful coaches) wanted to be here, too.
Chizik did not want to be here - he wanted to pass through here on his way to somewhere else.
I saw Hayden Fry mentioned earlier. If Rhoads can stay for a long tenure (if mutually agreed by him and ISU), because of his passion for Iowa (state, not school) he has a chance to really take ISU to another level. Fry did it at Iowa, Rhoads can do it at ISU.
I just hope that the ISU community will give him the chance to do it - be patient when things are not going very well - reward when things are going well.
McCarney wanted to be here. Some other (maybe not so successful coaches) wanted to be here, too.
Chizik did not want to be here - he wanted to pass through here on his way to somewhere else.
I saw Hayden Fry mentioned earlier. If Rhoads can stay for a long tenure (if mutually agreed by him and ISU), because of his passion for Iowa (state, not school) he has a chance to really take ISU to another level. Fry did it at Iowa, Rhoads can do it at ISU.
I just hope that the ISU community will give him the chance to do it - be patient when things are not going very well - reward when things are going well.
Too easy, dude.
Dolly's a DD. That's the same initials as Darius Darks, who played at the spring game that THE GREAT SATAN, JAMIE POLLARD set up. Had he not played in that game, set up purely for the greed of the AD, he might have been healthy for the start of the season, somehow giving us more wins.
(that's all I could come up with in a short time. I had something promising going with Dodie Dunson, but couldn't finish it, and I couldn't think of anything to day about Doug Dedrick)
You got to give Monty a REAL challenge...like...let's see...relating JP to the time dilation of a relativistic particle.
(Free rep if you can actually find a way to relate time dilation to JP)
He grew up in central Iowa...he knows what we have gone through being Iowa State fans....I hope he wouldn't want to be another name on the long list of people screwing us
Yes.
Look, this team is personal for us. If it isn't personal to our coaches then that hurts. Every coach who hasn't left is gonna say all the right stuff. If they leave before accomplishing anything then it hurts, because you know they lied. (see Chizik)... And by them leaving, it proves that loving ISU wasn't as personal to them as it is to us. That is why you would hold it against Rhoads, or any other coach.
Look, this team is personal for us. If it isn't personal to our coaches then that hurts. Every coach who hasn't left is gonna say all the right stuff. If they leave before accomplishing anything then it hurts, because you know they lied. (see Chizik)... And by them leaving, it proves that loving ISU wasn't as personal to them as it is to us. That is why you would hold it against Rhoads, or any other coach.
OK, if CPR is here 12 years and pi$$es away two chances at the North while it's the worst BCS division in the country and then follows it up with a 4-8 season that is four plays from being 0-12, then I can see the comparison to Mac. I'm sorry, but Mac's tenure had run its course. And as much as you want to blame it on Pollard, if ISU fans were all squarely behind Mac and buying tickets at a high level, he never would have been fired. I don't believe for a second that Pollard schemed to fire Mac from the start. The fanbase demanded it. Now, we may have been wrong, but to say that Pollard came in with a plan to fire Mac (or Morgan) is stretching it. He may have done that for some Olympic sports, but you don't make a move on the FB or MBB coach without backing from a vast majority of the fanbase.
As for CPR, if he ends up leaving ISU in a better position than he found it, I'm not going to be one to complain. Good thing is, I don't think he has the name power or connection to a big-time school that Chizik did, so he's going to have to string together some decent seasons to get noticed by the big dogs.
