Would you hold it against Rhoads if he left for a better job?

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I would be very upset, but not really at him. I think most of us may have thought along the way the Chiz had the ability to Chiz us (we were a stepping stone). I don't get that feeling from PR. If PR left, it would be like opening the best Christmas Gift ever from your wife, say like an xbox 360. Then later find out it was only a rental and you had to return it. Thats just not right.
 
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I wonder what the response would have been to this question regarding Chizik 15 months ago.

We cannot compare this to Chizik. I don't think anyone was under the impression he was here for the long haul. If you were, then sorry but you were a little naive. Chiz didn't grow up 15 mins from Ames. He had been at two huge power school and had won a National Championship. Once you do that it is hard to have patience.
 
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Based on the fact that he's "so proud to be (their) coach," I'd be pretty disappointed. Imagine how disenfranchised the players would feel.
I do a pretty sweet Paul Rhoad's impression, you can to, here's how:

1. Begin sentence with "LISTEN TO ME, LISTEN TO ME..."

2. Follow with, "I'm soooo Prrrrouud of this..."

3. Insert a word/s. Example: Applebee's Chipotle Sauce.
 

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We did? You mean the coach that won 5 game in two seasons.

Let's not pretend this would be the same thing.
Don't you think that since Rhoads has been a winner, that it would make it worse if he left? He's given us hope for the FB program and if he left I would be much more upset than I was when we were Chizik'd.
 

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As long as the administration continues to support the program as they are and he can get modest raises here and there and pay his assistants decent, he will be here for a long time IMO.

We need the program to keep moving forward though. That means $$$$$$$ from all of you!!
 

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We had a football coach who took us to an unprecedented 5 bowl games in 7 years, Pollard fired him after one year with no postseason play.

We had a basketball coach who took us to an NCAA tournament, an NIT tournament, and won 55 games in his first 3 years with 3 winning seasons, and Pollard fired him after one year with no postseason play.

Rhoads knows that ISU is not going to go to bowl games every year forever. What happens if he has a good run and then has a 3 or 4 win season? Unless we give him a McDermott-like contract that prevents him from getting canned, nobody should blame him if he does what's best for himself, given his boss' track record.
 

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I wouldn't blame him at all. It's not like ISU is his alma mater. This is college sports, if he gets a good opportunity it might not come again.

If he won the same amount of games as Chizik this year and next year we'd be all about getting rid of him. And if we have a tough year next year with a really tough schedule some people will be chirping already. These coaches can't afford to be too loyal and I don't blame them one bit.
 

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We had a football coach who took us to an unprecedented 5 bowl games in 7 years, Pollard fired him after one year with no postseason play.

We had a basketball coach who took us to an NCAA tournament, an NIT tournament, and won 55 games in his first 3 years with 3 winning seasons, and Pollard fired him after one year with no postseason play.

Rhoads knows that ISU is not going to go to bowl games every year forever. What happens if he has a good run and then has a 3 or 4 win season? Unless we give him a McDermott-like contract that prevents him from getting canned, nobody should blame him if he does what's best for himself, given his boss' track record.

How come you give BVV credit for Macs bowl games but you don't give Pollard credit for Fennelly's and Johnson's success?
 
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MontyBurns

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If he won the same amount of games as Chizik this year and next year we'd be all about getting rid of him. And if we have a tough year next year with a really tough schedule some people will be chirping already. These coaches can't afford to be too loyal and I don't blame them one bit.

This is 100% correct. And once all the people who wanted to get rid of him got their way, they'd be wanting him back. Just like ISU fans wanted McCarney back after Chizik actually started coaching, or wanted Morgan back after McDermott actually started coaching. And just like Iowa fans who wanted every one of their previously unwanted basketball coaches back for the past 3 decades.

Fans and some AD's (like ours) show no loyalty so they don't deserve any in return. I have to give Greg McDermott credit -- he was smart enough to know what he was getting into and he probably would not have taken the ISU job without the ridiculous 9 year contract he's got.
 

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How come you give BVV credit for Macs bowl games but you don't give Pollard credit for Fennelly's and Johnson's success?

Because Monty is a pile of **** who has no legitimate point on this site. He just wants to rag on Pollard with absolutely no logical background to his arguments. When you present facts that oppose his POV, he ignores them.
 
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I never want DM back and I never thought Morgan should have been fired so I guess I am the exception. I think it is pretty commonly accepted that DM had peaked here and was likely on the decline.
 

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I would hold it against him based on the fact that he would be a liar. I hold someones word very highly even if it is, "just business." If you plan on leaving don't coat everything in sugar.
 

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I wouldn't hold it against him.
I'm willing to bet a majority of us would leave our jobs for better ones.
 

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Because Monty is a pile of **** who has no legitimate point on this site. He just wants to rag on Pollard with absolutely no logical background to his arguments. When you present facts that oppose his POV, he ignores them.

I think that's obvious. You and I don't agree on much but we seem to agree on Monty. I am just going to continue to ask simple questions to respond to every negative post he has about JP. I will ask the same ones too until I get logical answers. He has some personal grudge against him for some reason or another so anything that goes wrong he will bring up and anything that goes right is pure luck. I would like to ignore him but the simple fact is I cannot because it would go against what I believe which is defeating ignorance and close-mindedness.
 

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We cannot compare this to Chizik. I don't think anyone was under the impression he was here for the long haul. If you were, then sorry but you were a little naive. Chiz didn't grow up 15 mins from Ames. He had been at two huge power school and had won a National Championship. Once you do that it is hard to have patience.

Not trying to compare. Just curious as to what the responses to the question would have been.
 

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I wouldn't hold it against him.
I'm willing to bet a majority of us would leave our jobs for better ones.

He has implied this is as good as it gets for him right now though. That may change but right now I htink he has no more he wants to accomplish than to make this program successful. We found the one guy capable of success in CFB that actually wants to be here.
 

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