Did it matter in 2013 when KSU and KU tied for the regular season champs, even though KU beat KSU twice by a combined 25 points? I mean KSU made it to the championship game that year, only to get waxed by KU for a third time by 16 points.
Does the B12 Tournament matter?
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I sincerely hope KSU's coaching staff and players took King McClure's opinion to heart and they drop a seed line as a result.
Not really. You're drawing conclusions that are completely lacking context. This thread started before the tournament. I have responded to prompts, that's all. This is a meaningless tournament for all but the winner as will be apparent when the others lose.
If Iowa State beats Kansas tonight but loses to TCU it was not meaningless for Iowa State. Adding 2 top 15 wins in 3 days will matter on Sunday.
If ISU beats Ku, it will be good for the Cyclones. It won't affect B12 champion Ku at all. Baylor and K-State likely remain three seeds.
Selfishly it is nice to watch them play the tournament. Especially when we win the whole thing. If it was taken away then we would all be angry. Not to mention KC flood of money for a week. Maybe have less conference games (let's say 3 less) and the tournament could compensate for less games. I mean everyone is tired of playing each other at this point. There isn't a break at all like in football. Maybe just me and old man talk. Those 18-23 year old's should be invincible.
I think I agree with that, the general tenor of it anyway. Pretty much what King McClure said as well. I'd much rather see a preseason tournament.
Win the last game and you're happy. Lose along the way and no one really cares, nor does it matter much.
KSU loss yesterday puts the 3 seed in real jeopardy. They are on the wrong side of the 3/4 line according to the advanced metrics. Even more so if Xavier is able to win vs Creighton today.
These games don't matter though.
K-State could very likely become a four seed, especially with teams like Tennessee, marquette, UConn, Xavier, Virginia, Miami, and Indiana all still alive and realizing that their conference tournaments still matter to their seeding.
Baylor was a consensus 2 seed yesterday. So them moving to the 3 line would have been an adverse effect of getting beat yesterday. Iowa State winning out could possibly vault them into that 3 range as well.
I would rather control as much of my seed destination as I can.
King McClure is the only person in the galaxy qualified to answer this question.
it could very well likely be that ISU winning it and vaulting them to a 3 could knock out K-State and put them at 4 moving them from DSM.
Y'all act as the difference between a three and four is earth shattering. Where will ISU be even if they win the afterthought?
Also- its very likley that K-state and Iowa State have their seeds *almost* locked in
Would you rather be a 3 and play in DSM or be a 4 and play in Sacremento?
It has implications so don't act like it doesn't.
Said after the fact after they never won…..Do you get where this is going? Trying to downplay something as unimportant after not winning. Seems like a defense tactic to make himself feel better.
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