Sounding like the Big 12 is going to be “clarifying” the tiebreaker rules tomorrow. Currently, in a multiple-team tie, the round robin tiebreaker only applies if every team has played every other team tied. Sounds like they’re changing it in a way that will benefit Oklahoma State, where the tiebreaker applies if one team has defeated every other tied team.
Football Tiebreaker Rule Change
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That would benefit us if we win out.
If Texas wins out (which is the most likely outcome), they wouldn't be tied with OSU. But this would give OSU the nod if they found themselves in a 3-way tie with OSU and KSU.
I like the tiebreakers of being named the Longhorns or Sooners automatically disqualifies you from playing in the title game personally.
If we win out we would have the win over Texas and OSU. We would all be tied at 7-2 assuming we all win our last games.
Crap. You're probably right. Not sure what happens in a 4 way tie at 7-2. My brain hurts too much.
If they win out OU would also be tied at 7-2, who we don't have the win over, so this expected clarification doesn't help us unless OU drops another game.
Or if OU wins the first tiebreaker and we end up tied with UT and OSU. Then it helps us.
Problem is I'm not sure what the first tiebreaker would be in a four way tie.
Huh. According to Mred's calculator even currently winning out doesn't get us in if Texas (except ISU), OU, and OSU win their remaining games.
Yeah, right now Iowa State needs an OU or an OSU loss (along, of course, with winning their last two games). That may change tomorrow, though -- and if it does, it would be neutral for ISU at worst.
Historically wouldn't it be the highest ranked teams play (TX + OU) to provide the best chance to put one in the playoffs. However, I think they should be omitted from tie breaker scenarios and I hope the clarification process does exactly that without expressly stating it
I think this is good for us. If I’m reading this right, if we win out we will be in. With wins over OSU and Texas
I think they are saying Okie St doesn't get penalized for not having the 2nd win. In other words 2-1 = 1-1 so it goes to the next tie breaker.
I think you have to consider that the number one spot and the number two spot are considered separately.
So in a tiebreaker situation, for Iowa State to benefit you want Oklahoma to finish number one (because we did not beat them) and then Iowa State Oklahoma State and Texas to be tied for number two, at which point Iowa State would get in because it'd be both Oklahoma State and Texas in that scenario (whereas they currently would not because of Oklahoma State did not play Texas)
So in a tiebreaker situation, for Iowa State to benefit you want Oklahoma to finish number one (because we did not beat them) and then Iowa State Oklahoma State and Texas to be tied for number two, at which point Iowa State would get in because it'd be both Oklahoma State and Texas in that scenario (whereas they currently would not because of Oklahoma State did not play Texas)
