This is fun being part of the mix. Beats last year.
No, it’s still clear as mud and probably doesn’t affect scenarios relevant to us.I think this is good for us. If I’m reading this right, if we win out we will be in. With wins over OSU and Texas
If this happens, the rules should be straightforward that ISU and OU go to the championship game. Those teams would have finished 7-2 while playing a tougher schedule than Okie State and Texas.Say we win out and finish tied at 7-2 with Texas, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. Within that tied group, ISU and OU are 2-1, OSU is 1-1, and UT is 0-2. Oklahoma State and Texas didn’t play each other.
Should, by doing away with divisions without a full round Robin opens up corruption. I.E. they send who they want.If this happens, the rules should be straightforward that ISU and OU go to the championship game. Those teams would have finished 7-2 while playing a tougher schedule than Okie State and Texas.
KCCI said on their six o'clock news that ISU has to win out and then have OU and/or OSU lose a game. If we win out we would have the tie breaker over UT, OSU and KSU, but not to OU.Huh. According to Mred's calculator even currently winning out doesn't get us in if Texas (except ISU), OU, and OSU win their remaining games.
Crap. You're probably right. Not sure what happens in a 4 way tie at 7-2. My brain hurts too much.
You rock btw. Your #2 note is the part i am most curious about. “Next highest” makes it sound like they wouldn’t start at #1 if the tiebreaker was amongst #2s, which would be stupid. But why the word “next” then. Its a key word to the whole stepI've set up a temporary version of my tiebreaker site that has the new logic. I'll switch the main page over to this logic once it's officially announced.
https://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=fb&xml=big12fbnew
I'm basically trying to guess as to how they interpret their own tiebreaker. I can't imagine they'd skip record vs #1 team when breaking a tie at #2.Your #2 note is the part i am most curious about. “Next highest” makes it sound like they wouldn’t start at #1 if the tiebreaker was amongst #2s, which would be stupid. But why the word “next” then. Its a key word to the whole step
We will have beaten 3 of the 4 opponents head to head, but that’s different than saying we “have the tiebreaker over them”. It’s more complicated than that.KCCI said on their six o'clock news that ISU has to win out and then have OU and/or OSU lose a game. If we win out we would have the tie breaker over UT, OSU and KSU, but not to OU.
Very in depth and informative!!I've set up a temporary version of my tiebreaker site that has the new logic. I'll switch the main page over to this logic once it's officially announced.
https://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=fb&xml=big12fbnew
It feels like what they ought to do in that situation is eliminate Texas because the best they could be is 1-2 if all the teams played each other, but I know (or at least think) that isn’t how they do it.If OSU, Texas, OU, ISU tie at 7-2. The 4 way round robin currently gets skipped due to OSU vs Texas not happening. The outcome of that game would have impacted who gets eliminated. So in that scenario skipping it makes sense.
ISU (2-1)
OU (2-1)
OSU (1-1)
UT (0-2)